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Chinese Netizen Fined over 1M Yuan for Using VPN

114 点作者 hker超过 1 年前

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lziest超过 1 年前
The fine is actually 200 yuan, but the salary, over 1 million yuan, which he received while working remotely has been deemed as "illegal income" and subject to confiscation.
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bjornsing超过 1 年前
Where I live (Sweden) it’s legal to use GitHub (with or without a VPN). But if I fail to report 138000 USD in earnings I’d still be in for a world of hurt: First the tax authority would take about 100000-200000 USD from me. Then I’d be prosecuted for tax fraud. Nobody would be upset or come to my defense.<p>Not saying I prefer the Chinese system, but it’s interesting that in this specific case it’s probably more lenient.<p>EDIT: But I guess this guy didn’t have the option to report the income and pay his taxes? In that case it’s definitely another dimension of repression…
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hker超过 1 年前
Some context which may be relevant: many local governments in China are in heavy debt, and they need more income: police have been collecting more and more fines, causing some outrages [1]. There are reports that many civil servants are unpaid for months (in Tianjin [2] and other cities [3][4]), in addition to getting heavy wage cuts [3][5].<p>A penalty of over 1 million yuan (&gt;145K USD) for <i>using</i> VPN is a new development: before this, only VPN service <i>sellers</i> were prosecuted.<p>[1]: Law-enforcement agencies have been imposing larger and more frequent fines for offenses: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wsj.com&#x2F;world&#x2F;china&#x2F;chinas-local-governments-are-so-cash-strapped-they-use-police-to-raise-revenue-30c4fcaf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.wsj.com&#x2F;world&#x2F;china&#x2F;chinas-local-governments-are...</a> &quot;China’s Police Are the New Earners for Cash-Strapped Governments&quot;<p>[2]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eightify.app&#x2F;summary&#x2F;chess&#x2F;tianjin-government-crisis-unpaid-salaries-and-impending-bankruptcy" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;eightify.app&#x2F;summary&#x2F;chess&#x2F;tianjin-government-crisis...</a> &quot;The Tianjin government&#x27;s financial crisis, with unpaid wages and high debt ratios, reflects a larger problem in China&#x27;s declining land finance and unsaleable real estate market, raising concerns about the stability of other Chinese cities.&quot;<p>[3]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=242pUa9rXgg">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=242pUa9rXgg</a> &quot;Civil Servants go unpaid and Local Government Borrowed From Temples&#x2F;Protests surge in China&quot;<p>[4]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rfa.org&#x2F;english&#x2F;news&#x2F;china&#x2F;wages-09082023112323.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rfa.org&#x2F;english&#x2F;news&#x2F;china&#x2F;wages-09082023112323....</a> &quot;Chinese local governments struggle to pay civil servants&#x27; wages&quot;<p>[5]: The government is trimming a combination of bonuses, cash subsidies and base pay for many employees, according to interviews with 10 local civil servants: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;features&#x2F;2023-09-12&#x2F;pay-cuts-in-finance-tech-threaten-xi-s-campaign-to-revive-china-economy" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bloomberg.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;features&#x2F;2023-09-12&#x2F;pay-cuts-...</a> &quot;Bankers’ 40% Pay Cuts Show the China Dream Fading in Its Richest Cities&quot;
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csomar超过 1 年前
It&#x27;s important to keep into perspective that China is a 1.4Bn people&#x27;s country and highly decentralized (much to the chagrin of the pro-US). This happened under the &quot;Chengde&quot; administration. There might be many reasons for this: Chengde is over-zealous, The police has a particular issue with a particular individual, the central state wants some examples, the local state wants to show its toughness on VPN, the local state needs some tax money and is pillaging, etc..
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throwaway4good超过 1 年前
I don&#x27;t actually understand the Chinese rules on uncensored internet access.<p>When I travel to China with a mobile phone subscription that supports roaming, I get completely uncensored access to the internet. Surely this is according to Chinese rules.<p>Likewise all the expats and Chinese I have met all used whatever they wanted of US social media plus they had a shit ton of pirated(?) American TV shows and movies.<p>Perhap the policies are changing? I don&#x27;t know but this particular case sounds like a very modest fine (200 yuan) for using a VPN and sizeable fine for not reporting (and being taxed on) a foreign income.
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skilled超过 1 年前
$138,000 USD<p>Also an Archive link because the site timed out for me,<p><a href="http:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20231006045251&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;here.news&#x2F;post&#x2F;93c46bbd-ea0d-48e2-bba6-135e58887f81&#x2F;chinese-netizen-fined-over-1-million-yua" rel="nofollow noreferrer">http:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20231006045251&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;here.news&#x2F;...</a>
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Simulacra超过 1 年前
China is not a country anyone should be doing business with, let alone visiting. The level of human rights abuses and the potential for extra judicial actions make it far too dangerous.
hknmtt超过 1 年前
I will never understand China or Chinese people.
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_hypx_超过 1 年前
There&#x27;s no possibility of China having a competitive tech industry with these kinds of restrictions.
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rado超过 1 年前
Yet various government agencies sidestep the GFW and use banned social media. Bizarre
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mherrmann超过 1 年前
1M Yuan is roughly 137,000 USD.