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Zimaboard: The closest thing to my dream home server setup

348 点作者 hddherman超过 1 年前

31 条评论

oneplane超过 1 年前
Zima is average-good at branding and maybe styling and that&#x27;s about it. The hardware is pretty much random ODM low power designs, but based on ancient 2016 era releases.<p>Maybe it&#x27;s just a company in Hong Kong trying to offload old inventory, maybe it&#x27;s something else (i.e. Intel SIPP), but I wouldn&#x27;t recommend it either way, unless power is free and you really want to minimally reduce e-waste (which is what this is).<p>You can get practically any later generation for the same (or lower) price with the same (or better) features but higher performance. Even a 5W design from Qotom from the same era would be a better choice.<p>An example: an ODM has a X30G-N5100 which is a 4-core 4-threads based Intel SoC from 2021 with (LP)DDR4 support burst to 2.8Ghz and a TDP of 6W. Normally you&#x27;d not have them burn full power all the time and you&#x27;re more likely to use 3 to 4W. It has modern features, modern security and mainstream support for all of it. And if that&#x27;s too new for you, you can get a J4xxx or N4xxx series box for half the price of that zima, but double the performance.
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justinclift超过 1 年前
&gt; This variant of the board costs 200 USD ...<p>Doesn&#x27;t sound like a good deal when compared with 2nd hand microservers and small form factor PCs from Ebay.<p>Things like these:<p>∙ <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ebay.com&#x2F;itm&#x2F;175917817224" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ebay.com&#x2F;itm&#x2F;175917817224</a> ⇦ 2x NVMe slots<p>∙ <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ebay.com&#x2F;itm&#x2F;204477355543" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.ebay.com&#x2F;itm&#x2F;204477355543</a> ⇦ 4x 3.5&quot; drives, ECC memory capable<p>Note - I don&#x27;t know those sellers.
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explorigin超过 1 年前
Nothing against Zimaboard but the best part of the article (for me) is his cable organization shown in his conclusion. So pretty.
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redder23超过 1 年前
I actually have one, installed Ubuntu and Ansible-Nas on it. Here is me lsblk output: its supposed to have 32GB MMC space, I only got 14GB. I wrote them an email about it, they asked for confirmation of my order only to then ignore me.<p>mmcblk0 ... 14.7G<p>At and while I am at it, I can not access the docker services from LAN even though I can ssh into it and I can locally via w3m access the services like hemdall hosted thought docker. Any idea what may fix this?
dangus超过 1 年前
These little boards are neat products but I think they tend to compare poorly to used “normal computers.”<p>If you want a Zimaboard system with 8GB of RAM, you’re looking at 200 bucks. You have to get the mid-range one just to get 4 cores.<p>I bought a used 2012 quad core Mac mini which also has 2 SATA slots for about half that price. It idles at 13W according to Apple, and the person who sold it to me already had it upgraded to 16GB of RAM.<p>This is a machine with the “Apple tax,” i.e., a higher resale value than a PC.<p>You can jump on eBay and have a blast with “HP EliteDesk” as your search term.<p>I have to admit, though, a PCIe slot on a system this small is nice to have.
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okramcivokram超过 1 年前
There’s also the upcoming Zima Blade that is very tiny too, quite a bit cheaper, with a SO-DIMM slot, single Ethernet port, and USB-C powered.
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paldepind2超过 1 年前
One thing I don&#x27;t really understand about the Zimaboard is why it comes in such a good looking enclosure? If you want to use it with stuff connected to the PCIe&#x2F;SATA ports you&#x27;ll always need some extra enclosure&#x2F;case anyway to keep things clean. At that point why not just ship a board like a Raspberry PI, etc?<p>&gt; btrfs has had some issues in the past, especially with the RAID5&#x2F;6 setup<p>I&#x27;m pretty sure that btrfs still has major issues with RAID 5 &amp; 6, and that these RAID modes are not recommended to be used in anger.
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pmontra超过 1 年前
If you care about Sata3 interfaces, the Odroid HC4 has two of them with vertical disk holders. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.odroid.com&#x2F;odroid-hc4&#x2F;odroid-hc4" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;wiki.odroid.com&#x2F;odroid-hc4&#x2F;odroid-hc4</a><p>The one I&#x27;m using as home server is consuming 3.48 W now with a Samsung 850 SSD (1 TB.)
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pmarreck超过 1 年前
NixOS makes ZFS feel like part of the kernel again if you configure it to only use ZFS-compatible kernels. Had that setup for about 2 years now.<p>I bricked or trashed too many BTRFS drive setups to ever trust it again. If I went to anything else it would be bcachefs.
methou超过 1 年前
For those who are interested in faster network, can look at R86s variants: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.servethehome.com&#x2F;the-gowin-r86s-revolution-low-power-2-5gbe-and-10gbe-intel-nvidia&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.servethehome.com&#x2F;the-gowin-r86s-revolution-low-p...</a><p>The 10Gb NIC is actually an mellanox cx3 series with OCP connector, theretically you can replace it with some more interesting cards like cx5&#x2F;6, or solarflare&#x27;s
bdcravens超过 1 年前
&gt; There is no native way to mount the two SATA drives to the Zimaboard. The creators of the board do sell a metal bracket, but it doesn’t seem to integrate that well to the board.<p>Funny enough, I just had the ad for the ZimaCube pop up on Facebook (holds 6 drives, up to 164TB)<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;zimacube.zimaboard.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;zimacube.zimaboard.com&#x2F;</a>
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zamadatix超过 1 年前
I think there is an over-focus on being fanless for silence and that leads to wandering down really niche sets of boards like this almost for the sake of looking for a niche board in itself. While it sounds extremely boring, a standard mini PC (called a &quot;TinyMiniMicro&quot; in this, Serve The Home phrasing) will almost always be a significantly better device, limit the fan speed to your liking (I typically go around 30 percent, can barely hear them with your ear up to the fan).<p>If your goal is to 3d print a custom case, mount things externally, and tinker these kinds of things that&#x27;s great but I feel a lot of tech folks get caught up in &quot;tinkering&quot; needing to equal &quot;the best option&quot;. I&#x27;m not saying there is anything wrong with tinkering, I&#x27;ve actually got a few devices mentioned like the mentioned Flashstor 12 and it&#x27;s a lot of fun to mess with. At the same time, I&#x27;d sooner call them my dream tinkering devices than my dream home server.
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ferbass超过 1 年前
I&#x27;ve been running Zimaboard for the past one year and I have no regrets. I replaced 2 Pi 3 that I was using before go run Pi-Hole, Home Assistant and some other services. Power consumption is quite good as well, no regrets, indeed a good alternative to Pi and any other MiniPC.
jpdb超过 1 年前
I really wish there was a device like this that could be used as a type of &quot;blade server&quot; that could be inserted into a standard 1u&#x2F;2u short-depth rack mounted chassis. That would let me re-use my existing 8u wallmounted rack instead of a shelf with zip-ties.
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aftbit超过 1 年前
This looks like a nice home server if you have power, size, and noise constraints. I enjoy used enterprise gear personally, but my total power consumption is about 15x what this board uses.
Daril超过 1 年前
After many years with 2 Raspberry Pi (3 version later upgraded to 4) I bought 2 Minisforum GK41 : 1 CPU J4125, 8GB RAM, 256 GB NVME, 2 Ethernet 1Gb&#x2F;s, 1 SATA connector and internal slot for a SSD disk.<p>It costed months ago more than 200 Euros, it is now available for less than 150 Euros.<p>I am very satisfied, it is running Debian testing as server at home and office.<p>The only drawback is the fan, but is very quiet.<p>I measured the power consumption and it is around 5W per hour, the same amount of the Raspberry Pi 4.
aftbit超过 1 年前
If you care about the noise and size, but not so much about looks, you can also pick up a nice N5105 box for about the same price from Amazon, but with tons of ethernet ports available.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Firewall-Appliance-HUNSN-Barebone-Storage&#x2F;dp&#x2F;B0B53MKZBX" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.amazon.com&#x2F;Firewall-Appliance-HUNSN-Barebone-Sto...</a>
cramjabsyn超过 1 年前
Tbh second hand USFF or SFF PCs make excellent home servers. They have powerful x86_64 CPUs, are power efficient and can be had for sub $100
oktwtf超过 1 年前
I’d really like to consolidate my FX8350, 32GB, 2xsata ssd, 4xhdd, 4port gig pcie nic server into a lower power consumption device. I think if it had dual 2.5g nics and dual nvme, plus a couple sata built in I’d be happy. But more than one drive keyed m.2 for nvme on a sbc isn’t common, especially with sata or a pcie slot.<p>I tried a RockPro64, but it didn’t quite live up to the task.
zokier超过 1 年前
I do think that in 2023 1Gbe is starting to feel bit outdated when 2.5(&#x2F;5&#x2F;10) Gbe is becoming commodity. Something like NanoPi R5S has 2x2.5Gbe, and a nvme slot, all in nice little low power package. Sure, it doesn&#x27;t have sata slots that OP wants, but I&#x27;d imagine similar ARM&#x2F;Rockchip devices are available in all sorts of configurations.
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syntaxing超过 1 年前
If they can update the CPU to either the N95 and N100, it would be the perfect machine. The current CPU is just too old.
jeo123超过 1 年前
2nd hand laptops like those X and T series easily beat this server with some RAM and SSD upgrades. I got T430 i3 and i5 for around 150 dollars a piece. I dont see the needs of Zima unless you really prefer new crippled compute. Even using Zulu or Rp5 or Op5 make more sense than Zima.
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naikrovek超过 1 年前
am i still paranoid about the news that supermicro motherboards were modified by chinese manufacturers to add spying hardware? I don’t want to buy hardware anymore.<p>oh, and for the record, fuck the People’s Republic of China.
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robsalasco超过 1 年前
How is the performance comparable to a rpi 5?
sharts超过 1 年前
More than anything the Zimaboard website just turns me off to buying this, ever. For an enthusiast community, start w&#x2F; raw specs up front. Not fancy picture of what&#x27;s possible. We all know what&#x27;s possible.<p>The website screams of trying too hard w&#x2F; the specs eventually listed when you scroll all the way to the bottom of the pages.<p>Perhaps the target is people that don&#x27;t know anything about technology? Or maybe to show off some web dev skills.
colordrops超过 1 年前
The perfect home server for me would be:<p>* No larger than a very thick laptop<p>* 2 SFP+ ports<p>* 8 POE ports<p>* zigbee, zwave, and maybe rtlsdr radio<p>* large laptop battery as a UPS<p>* built in TPU<p>* decent CPU<p>* at least integrated GPU, if not a slot for a discrete GPU<p>* NVMe<p>This would replace my large, noisy, power hungry rack with a single unit that would handle OPNSense, home automation, security cameras, and my various apps like photo management, nextcloud, mastodon, minecraft servers for the kids, etc<p>I don&#x27;t think anyone sells anything like this, but I think it might not be hard to build using Framework laptop parts, a cheap POE switch, and a custom built case...
lakomen超过 1 年前
A server without ECC RAM is not a server, sorry. It&#x27;s a catastrophe bound to happen.
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bobse超过 1 年前
What is wyse 5070 extended?
7e超过 1 年前
Does it have IPMI?
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asmor超过 1 年前
ZimaBoard has my favorite garbled mess SEO page.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.zimaboard.com&#x2F;blade&#x2F;resident-evil-village-coming-this-spring&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.zimaboard.com&#x2F;blade&#x2F;resident-evil-village-coming...</a><p>If you manage to decipher anything from this, let us all know. I feel like I&#x27;m missing out on the wisdom of Jerry, presumably the protagonist of Cyberpunk 2077.
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faefox超过 1 年前
&gt; &quot;I suspect that a similarily configured Raspberry Pi 4&#x2F;5 with all the accessories added on top would result in a price that’s quite similar to the cost of a top-of-the-line Zimaboard.&quot;<p>With respect to the author, why would you not take 10 seconds to verify this claim? A cursory Google search shows that an 8 GB Pi 4 with passive case and PSU is ~$100 all-in. If you can wait a couple of weeks the Pi 5 offers a nice performance bump (and PCIe!) for about the same price factoring in the official active cooler and case.
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