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Ask HN: Why are Ubuntu images so big?

14 点作者 underscoring超过 1 年前
I just downloaded 23.10 and its 4.8GB. I went back and looked at the last few years releases<p>- 23.10 - 4.8G<p>- 23.04 - 4.6G<p>- 22.10 - 3.8G<p>- 22.04 - 3.4G<p>- 21.10 - 2.9G<p>- 21.04 - 2.6G<p>- 20.10 - 2.7G<p>- 20.04 - 2.5G<p>Maybe it&#x27;s a noob question, but I can&#x27;t find anyone else commenting on this. Why has Ubuntu doubled in size since mid-2020? Why does it grow by so much with every new release?

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snovymgodym超过 1 年前
Snaps (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Snap_(software)" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Snap_(software)</a>) may have something to do with it.<p>Incidentally, Snaps are part the reason I&#x27;m abandoning Ubuntu for any of my personal machines.
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maksut超过 1 年前
It is not number of packages! 20.04 has 2977 packages and 23.10 has 1841 (from pkglist from distrowatch). After a quick eyeballing, example packages in 20.04 but NOT in 23.10: apache, g++, qemu, php, postgres, samba.<p>Also for comparison:<p>- MacOS installer ~14G [0]<p>- Windows 11 installer ~8G [1]<p>- Arch installer ~800M [2]<p>0: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.apple.com&#x2F;en-gb&#x2F;HT201372" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;support.apple.com&#x2F;en-gb&#x2F;HT201372</a><p>1: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.microsoft.com&#x2F;software-download&#x2F;windows11" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.microsoft.com&#x2F;software-download&#x2F;windows11</a><p>2: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archlinux.org&#x2F;download&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archlinux.org&#x2F;download&#x2F;</a>
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palata超过 1 年前
I would say: because nobody cares, &quot;memory is cheap&quot;.<p>Same reason why software gets slower every time hardware gets faster, why everything expects a fast internet connection, or why it&#x27;s impossible to <i>buy</i> a movie without DRMs (say if you want to have the file and add subtitles for your language):<p>Users don&#x27;t care, they keep using&#x2F;buying the non-optimized stuff. And devs are more productive (and companies make more money) by not optimizing anything.
PaulHoule超过 1 年前
You can mount the USB stick and look inside, right?
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speedgoose超过 1 年前
The cloud images have been more stable in size: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cloud-images.ubuntu.com&#x2F;releases&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;cloud-images.ubuntu.com&#x2F;releases&#x2F;</a>
asicsp超过 1 年前
May be the newer ones are including multiple desktop environments (GNOME&#x2F;XFCE&#x2F;etc)?
goodboyjojo超过 1 年前
my guess is they try to put everything in so the user doesn&#x27;t have to. but personally i like to setup my linux based distros how i like it.
KomoD超过 1 年前
Is that for the Desktop release or Server release?<p>edit: seems like desktop