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Pinball isn't as random as it seems (2018) [video]

17 点作者 manaskarekar超过 1 年前

6 条评论

toast0超过 1 年前
I only watched a little bit, but pinball machines have been trying to tell you all this for decades. Sometimes the instruction cards go missing, but if they&#x27;re there, on the left side of the apron, you&#x27;ll have a summary of the rules &#x2F; what to do, and the right card should tell you the pricing.<p>Additionally, many pinball machines will tell you on the displays what to do. I&#x27;ve got a Pin-Bot (1986) and in addition to the instruction card, the attract mode has a detailed description of rules you can see here [1] this video doesn&#x27;t show it, but while it&#x27;s telling you what to do, it also flashes the lights near the feature it&#x27;s describing. Pin-Bot only has alphanumeric displays for the top displays, so it takes a while to get through the whole thing.<p>I don&#x27;t think all machines have that detailed instruction, but I don&#x27;t think it was only Pin-Bot.<p>But, the rule of shoot at the flashing lights basically works.<p>You can also get a lot of mileage out of not doing anything. To practice that, if you&#x27;ve got access to a machine on free play or at lost cost, try playing one handed, moving your hand from button to button. You&#x27;ll miss a ton of shots because your hand is on the wrong button, but a lot of the time, more often than you&#x27;d expect, it&#x27;ll be ok, or at least, the ball will take longer to drain than you&#x27;d think it would.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=-SxSI-SsuEg&amp;t=135s">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=-SxSI-SsuEg&amp;t=135s</a>
zoklet-enjoyer超过 1 年前
Is this something that people commonly believe? I don&#x27;t think I&#x27;ve ever heard anyone make a comment about pinball being random. It&#x27;s a game of skill and I just don&#x27;t understand how someone who has played pinball would think otherwise.<p>Cool video though. I like the clear explanation of goals and all the flashy lights.
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TeMPOraL超过 1 年前
It&#x27;s definitely not random, because arcade games are never random. They&#x27;re usually <i>worse than random</i>. Whatever its position on a &quot;game of chance&quot; vs. &quot;game of skill&quot; spectrum, the machine has rules about how much winning the customers are allowed to get away with, and&#x2F;or how much profit it&#x27;s supposed to generate in a day; once the threshold is crossed, it&#x27;ll happily interfere with your play to <i>guarantee</i> you lose.<p>Like, you thought you suck at reaction time games despite playing them a lot, because you always hit the button a split second too late or too early? Your reaction time was likely stellar - it&#x27;s the game code that rejected your hit and animated it as near-miss. You&#x27;d never know without a high-speed camera - but these days those are ubiquitous, and YouTube has plenty of recordings of games cheating this way.<p>It&#x27;s one of those things you learn as an adult and realize that people suck much more than you thought when you were a kid.
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seanhunter超过 1 年前
How could anyone who has played even a single game of pinball and&#x2F;or observed anyone who is skillful at pinball think that it&#x27;s random?
mark_l_watson超过 1 年前
Of course the ball motion is not random. When I was a kid, probably around 1962, my brother and I bought a real Gotlieb Brothers pinball machine from a neighbor who didn’t want it. Over the years I got so tuned into that machine that I would about once a month ‘max score’ the machine with just one ball. It got to be relatively easy to max score it with the allotted 5 balls per game.
puzzledobserver超过 1 年前
I&#x27;ve never played on an actual pinball machine, but spent a lot of time playing Space Cadet Pinball when I was a kid.<p>I think I initially saw it as a random thing with bright shiny lights and funny sounds, but I eventually understood the game. I was never very good at it, but it is most certainly a game of skill.
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