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Tesla threatens to bring in strikebreakers as Swedish workers strike

43 点作者 yoelo超过 1 年前

15 条评论

magback超过 1 年前
As a Swede, perhaps I can shed some light on the &quot;Tesla situation&quot;.<p>Tesla is not breaking the law when they don&#x27;t sign a collective agreement with IF Metall. Tesla would not break any laws if they brought in workers from other countries, as long as those workers are able to get work visas or are from countries within the EU. They WOULD be breaking the law if they tried to fire employees for going on strike, so they would end up paying double salary.<p>However, Tesla&#x27;s real problem is not the law. It is the solidarity between unions in Sweden. Once the IF Metall strike gets going, other unions will join in. Tesla&#x27;s business would grind to a halt in days and people who own a Tesla would not be able to get their cars serviced anywhere. All this is a given, since there is absolutely no chance that the Swedish unions will back down.<p>A number of years ago, Toys&#x27;r&#x27;us tried the same thing. They were brought to their knees in about a week, if memory serves. They ended up signing the agreement, despite the fact that they had also said that &quot;they never signed agreements with the unions&quot;. They had apparently not done their homework when it comes to &quot;the Swedish model&quot;. Their stance was simply impossible, as is Tesla&#x27;s.<p>There are two things I don&#x27;t understand: 1. What does Tesla think will happen? Do they really think that they can do business in Sweden without getting along with the unions?<p>2. Why are they so negative towards unions? The Swedish model is built on a century of cooperation between employers and unions and it is working very well. I have myself been on the employer side many times when speaking to unions, and by far the most common situation is that we have good and productive discussions, where both parties are focused on helping the company to succeed. There are of cours exceptions, but they are not very common.
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StevenWaterman超过 1 年前
From a previous discussion: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.peoplespolicyproject.org&#x2F;2021&#x2F;09&#x2F;21&#x2F;when-mcdonalds-came-to-denmark&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.peoplespolicyproject.org&#x2F;2021&#x2F;09&#x2F;21&#x2F;when-mcdonal...</a>
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ghusto超过 1 年前
&gt; company claims that it doesn&#x27;t sign collective bargaining agreements anywhere in the world<p>LoL, yeah good luck with that.<p>From my experiences working for American companies, this is typical behaviour where an American company doesn&#x27;t (yet) realise the things that got them ahead in the U.S.A. won&#x27;t necessarily work — or even be legal or accepted — in Europe.<p>They&#x27;ll learn ;)
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VeejayRampay超过 1 年前
elon is furious that european workers demand to work in a safe environment because this is not how fortunes are built (they&#x27;re built the old fashion way, with broken limbs and lead poisoning)
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markjonsona989超过 1 年前
I have to say I don&#x27;t understand Elon&#x27;s (Tesla&#x27;s) reaction here. Surely he was advised on Swedish and EU laws and how things work over here before he decided to do business in Sweden?
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repelsteeltje超过 1 年前
Yet another scar on Tesla&#x27;s public image. For context I&#x27;m alluding to recent reports of extremely high injury rates in Tesla&#x27;s German factories, rumours about Chinese factory conditions.<p>[Cynical] Might be beneficial to outsource the this type of dirty work to subsidiaries or subcontractors, the way Apple offloads to Foxcon?
anttisalmela超过 1 年前
Empty threats, Nordic unions would just block all the imports.
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mattgrice超过 1 年前
It&#x27;s understandable that swedish language sources don&#x27;t know this, but the English word for &#x27;strikebreakers&#x27; is &#x27;scabs.&#x27;
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knurra超过 1 年前
UPS, FedEx, McDonald and Toys R Us already tried to make up their own rules. They&#x27;ve all ended up singing the agreement. Tesla will see that the demands are sound and reasonable. Tesla will comply or leave. Simple as that
maxehmookau超过 1 年前
This kind of nonsense doesn&#x27;t play well in Europe. Nor should it.<p>&gt; The company is refusing to sign one, IF Metall has reported, saying that company claims that it doesn&#x27;t sign collective bargaining agreements anywhere in the world.<p>Welcome to Europe, Elon.
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bestouff超过 1 年前
Welcome to Europe Elon.
RandomLensman超过 1 年前
In a way, it is always the companies which benefit(ed) most from state support that are the fiercest enemies of other &quot;socialists inclinations&quot;.
tibbydudeza超过 1 年前
Elon acting like a true South African born in the 80&#x27;s. Niemand gaan my fokken vertel nie :). Die Blerrie Commies.<p>Translation - Nobody is going to tell me how to do things. Esp Bloody Socialists.
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erikstarck超过 1 年前
I suppose Swedish Tesla workers have the same beneficial stock buying agreement that other countries have. No more of that if they are unionized.
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slaw超过 1 年前
Bring it on. Let&#x27;s union workers compete with non union workers.
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