UK plans to redefine extremism to include undermining the country

They are already arresting people for standing and silently praying, the least violent form protest. They arrest thousands each year for social media postings.<p>So continuing wrong think is a natural extension to mind crime laws.<p>UK Doesn&#x27;t have free speech laws or modern privacy laws (personal data somewhat, but the government is excluded)

I&#x27;m confused. How do they expect to arrest the entire house of commons?

Many Anglo nations, not just the UK, but also Australia and to a lesser extent, Canada, have had a terrifying shift into authoritarianism through these means, where crimes have clauses denying due process and laws are written in such a way as to be open to interpretation and use of arbitrary punishment.

V for Vendetta and Years and Years seem more and more like a warning

&gt; The documents state: “Extremism is the promotion or advancement of any ideology which aims to overturn or undermine the UK’s system of parliamentary democracy, its institutions and values.”<p>Members of the current (and well previous several) regime(s) can probably be called extremists, then...

The monarchy royal family can probably be considered as UK institutions&#x2F;values, so get ready to be arrested for offense to the king if you don&#x27;t agree with monarchy...

I think it is fair to say pluralism is at least nominally a value of the United Kingdom. This proposal seems to be an attempt to undermine pluralism, by proposing to prohibit attempts to undermine values of the United Kingdom. This seems hypocritical because attempting to make such a proposal would be forbidden if the proposal was law.

So, about those pushing for Brexit...

The UK still loves nebulous laws, I see.

An empty glove that will be filled by whomever is in power, with zero chance of near-equal application.

McCarthyism again.<p>When social commitment drops the gov will arrest you, but the gov won&#x27;t do anything when the problems started. Only when they are nearly over.

UK sees 1984 as an instruction manual

I think it&#x27;s too late. Britain is gone.

The UK state is dying and that&#x27;s the reason it&#x27;s acting so aggressively. It feels cornered, it&#x27;s starving and pressuring its people is how it&#x27;s trying to get back some of the control it used to have. It&#x27;s a lot like an old insane farmer who tries to get its sheep, who are already in a very poor shape, to perform by beating them up.

This is straight out of the authoritarian playbook.

Take a step back and ask yourself why the government should define &quot;extremism&quot; in the first place.

So self-critisism will become extremist? Oo

I think this is actually pretty positive, this will always be the de facto law anyway and now they&#x27;ve made it de jure which is if nothing else more honest than the counties that don&#x27;t.<p>I don&#x27;t like it one bit to be clear but I can&#x27;t really expect any system to behave when faced with what they believe is their own destruction.<p>Some group or act that people really believe is a threat to national security and the has a real chance of causing a revolt against the established order will find themselves facing down a government who&#x27;s loaded their battle short and willing to compromise anything to snuff it out. Making such a thing part of the actual law I think gives assurances to the people when it&#x27;s invoked that the government hasn&#x27;t completely broken down and still intends to hold themselves to the law where otherwise people might assume that acting extrajudicially broke the seal.

So, dust off the gallows?

Isn&#x27;t that just a fancy way to put &quot;disagreeing with us&quot;?

Too bad Nigel Farage got away with it &#x2F;s

Their country is dumb and can’t even stop colonies from rebelling and making an ass of the king or dumping some tea. What a bunch of loser idiots. Extradite me for treason you silly nannies.