Windows 10 PC will soon be 'junk'

The scam knows no limit. Make sure Windows 10 isn&#x27;t updated anymore and then make sure Windows 11 isn&#x27;t supported &quot;because the hardware is too old&quot;, forcing people to buy new computers.<p>As a sidenote for whatever reason I tried to install Windows 11 on an AMD 3700X (don&#x27;t remember why exactly I did that as I typically don&#x27;t run Windows). The AMD 3700X came out in mid 2019. Windows 11 refused to install for the hardware wasn&#x27;t supported: I don&#x27;t know if it was the mobo, the CPU, a configuration in the mobo... Really no clue. All I know is not only it failed but it failed <i>without telling what wasn&#x27;t supported</i>. On a computer that was not even four years old.<p>Meanwhile my wife is happily using Ubuntu on my old sixth gen Core i7 6700K from... 2015 (first Asus mobo that had a NVMe M.2 PCIe slot so in eight years I basically just upgraded the NVMe SSD to a more recent one).<p>I agree with the other poster: it&#x27;s an opportunity to have &quot;old&quot; computers and just install whatever Linux distro on them.<p>All that &quot;normies&quot; need is a browser: I switched my 67 years old mother-in-law to Linux. If she can use Linux, nearly anyone can.

I just bought one of these &quot;junk&quot; mini PCS for less than $100 with decent specs, and it came with Windows 10 professional, but it did not qualify to be updated to Windows 11.<p>I didn&#x27;t even boot into windows. I immediately installed Ubuntu, and now it is my home automation and home media interface.<p>Honestly, I can&#x27;t think of anything more beneficial to the Linux community then suddenly having a lot of cheap computers with good specs that are not only merely adequate, but actually rather exceptional for the cost, all because of the advent of Windows 11.<p>What was Microsoft thinking?!?

It&#x27;s absurd that this is the case; it&#x27;s purely about short-term profit, as others have said. I regularly refurbish and resell machines from more than ten years ago which run Windows 10 (or Windows 11, if you&#x27;re willing to modify it to accept an installation) just fine.<p>For normal office or school use, there&#x27;s nothing wrong with them! You need an SSD, about 8GB of RAM, and a first-generation i5 or i7 or newer, and you have a PC that is more than good enough for most people&#x27;s needs.<p>I am worried about how my business is going to be impacted by the forced retirement of Windows 10, but, I&#x27;ll adapt, just as the industry always does. Probably, that looks like installing Windows 11 on unsupported hardware with a disclaimer and instructions on how to keep it updated. It&#x27;s unfortunate, but given that the alternative is enormous amounts of e-waste, I&#x27;ll take it.<p>(For those who would say the alternative is Linux: Yes, for you or me, but not for the average customer. Linux machines won&#x27;t sell.)

It should be a legal requirement for platforms dominant in their industry to provide security updates until the hardware is at least 15yo, or include source with a license allowing for modification.<p>It is crazy that they can just abandon hardware that drove sales of their software after only a few years.

I still maintain that Win 7 was &#x27;Peak Windows&#x27;. Anything since then is a downgrade.<p>10-year old computers these days are still very much perfectly usable machines. As one of the other posters says, &#x27;most people only need a browser&#x27;.<p>If you want to stay with Windows, just use that old Windows machine until it falls apart.<p>If you don&#x27;t want to stay with Windows, there are many Linux distros out there that work just as well as (better than!) Windows ever did.

I refuse to upgrade to windows 11. It&#x27;s absolute garbage. It&#x27;s Linux after this.

What if there was a tax when a company caused the creation of waste by refusing to update or support a product and also refused to release it as FOSS?<p>Maybe $1 per pound &#x2F; $2.20 per KG based on estimated ewaste.<p>I would love to see cell phone providers who refuse to let me activate perfectly usable phones and Google who literally will not allow apps for older versions of Android in the Play Store change their ways.

Good opportunity to ditch Windows and install Linux. Happens every time.

There are still plenty of windows xp machines out there. How will this be any different

Very fine Prime Example of a software company artificially creating e-waste.

Meanwhile the flagship Nexus 5X reached EOL already in 2018, and I doubt there were many Android 6 devices with longer support. Yet it was released the same year as Windows 10...

Remember folks, even when you &#x27;buy&#x27; windows, it&#x27;s not a purchase, it doesn&#x27;t belong to you.<p>I paid for Windows 10 on my one-and-only gaming machine. I am one user. I upgraded my gaming machine (same hard disk &amp; Win 10 installation). Now it watermarks the screen with &quot;Activate Windows. Go to Settings to activate Windows.&quot; even over the top of games.

My guess: if people current computer can&#x27;t upgrade to win11, they are either going to stay with win10, no matter what Microsoft says, or just stop using a classic computer and stay on their mobile.<p>Sure there will be exceptions, some may migrate to mac or linux, but for the most part, most people just don&#x27;t need a computer.

SuperPenguin to the rescue!!

Windows 10 IoT is supported till 2034.<p>Despite the name, this is a full fledge Windows Desktop. The full name is Windows 10 IOT ENTERPRISE LTSC 2021. It is the version I run on my PC.<p>99% of the PCs that can run Windows 10, can run Windows 11. The only problem is TPM, but if you burn your ISO to USB using Rufus, it has an option to disable TPM requirement.<p>Or you can also install Linux.<p>I don&#x27;t see the problem here. Of course, it would be best if TPM was not an official (but skippable) requirement on Windows 11.