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The secretive rise of the 'overemployed'

63 点作者 bratao超过 1 年前

22 条评论

coldtea超过 1 年前
&gt;<i>They describe themselves as &quot;overemployed&quot; — and remarkably, they seem to be getting away with it.</i><p>As long as they perform the tasks of their jobs, why shouldn&#x27;t they be &quot;getting away with it&quot;?<p>It&#x27;s seems as if the &quot;free market&quot; exists only for the companies and bosses.
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datadrivenangel超过 1 年前
Far down in the article: &quot;Many in the OE [over employment] community, in fact, have taken advantage of the trend by getting a full-time J1 [job 1] that provides them with health insurance and then taking J2s [job2] and J3s that are contractor positions, which often come with higher pay to compensate for the lack of benefits.&quot;<p>So it sounds like some of this overemployment noise is just the classic moonlighting on the side.
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karaterobot超过 1 年前
&gt; But I think the bosses of the world are threatened by OE for a deeper reason — one that goes beyond the numbers. There&#x27;s something radical that happens to a worker&#x27;s psychology when they have multiple jobs. If your company is putting a roof over your head, it&#x27;s hard not to fall into a hustle-culture mentality at work, doing whatever it takes to satisfy your boss... But because the overemployed are no longer wholly dependent on any one employer, each job starts to look a little more disposable — which, if we&#x27;re being honest, is precisely how many CEOs view their employees.<p>Interesting take. Having multiple jobs makes each one disposable, leveling the ordinary, tilted relationship between companies and workers, in which the company treats employees as fungible and the employee has to take it. In that sense it seems more honest and equitable to me than the jobs I&#x27;ve had.<p>For me, when I don&#x27;t have enough work to fill a day, my reaction is not &quot;gosh, I&#x27;d better find more work,&quot; it&#x27;s &quot;I&#x27;ll go read a book, or work on a project&quot;. I&#x27;m financially secure, with no family to support. I can&#x27;t imagine wanting to work more in exchange for more money, and if I get laid off I&#x27;ve got savings to cover it. I have no issue with what these people are doing, but I doubt I&#x27;d ever join them.
goalieca超过 1 年前
My main issue with double dipping is that people with free time should be mentoring or tackling debt and other such things rather than waiting to be told what to do.
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ldjkfkdsjnv超过 1 年前
This is the easiest way to financial freedom. Better risk reward than starting a company.
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profmumbles超过 1 年前
Come on people - &quot;loyalty&quot; to &quot;the company? what doesthat get you? A lousy raise that got wiped out by inflation. Unmet promises of a promotion. Layoffs at the first sign of turmoil, with no warning.<p>&quot;loyalty&quot; is a two-way street.<p>Once I worked for a &quot;huge company&quot;, where I had gotten 4 patents, increased revenue, added value, started &amp; led a new global team, taught the hard stuff to more junior members, great reviews, blah blah blah.<p>Then I got laid off. Found another job pretty quick. couple months later the &quot;huge company&quot; realized they screwed up and tried to &quot;rehire&quot; several of us back. To a man, we all said: &quot;Why should I even <i>want</i> to work for a place that fired me?&quot;<p>So don&#x27;t talk to me about &quot;Loyalty&quot;.<p>BTW, doing your day job from 9-5, then doing outside &quot;contract work&quot;, &quot;consulting work&quot; or independant stuff like running a PC storefront or Web design has been going on forever ... nothing new here, move along, move along...
noughtme超过 1 年前
I know multiple software devs that play hockey 3 times a week during the work day. They could easily be working 2 full time jobs at the same time, but why would you, if you didn’t need to?
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eschneider超过 1 年前
Many years ago when I was working as a consulting engineer, I had two almost fulltime (30+ hours a week) clients going at the same time. In person. It was manageable because the sites were walking distance apart, but everyone got the hours that they were billed and everyone&#x27;s work got done.<p>Honestly, if you&#x27;re fully remote and don&#x27;t have any commute, that sort of thing is quite doable if that&#x27;s how you want to spend your time.
bluedino超过 1 年前
I knew a guy that had only one job, but he never actually did it. It would take 3-6 months to get fired and then he&#x27;d just get another job and peace out for a few months. I think he worked at one place for almost 8 months and then got laid off. After on-boarding he&#x27;d just lay low and maybe answer emails once a week.<p>Beats &quot;working&quot; 3 or 4 jobs and spending over 40 hours a week doing so.
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sovietmudkipz超过 1 年前
So what does your resume say for the period of time you are over employed? Lets say you worked at Meta, IBM, and Tinder... What do you put on your resume when applying for other roles?
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b5n超过 1 年前
I&#x27;m aghast! Everyone must RTO now! We&#x27;re laying off 20%, and bonuses (if any) will now be paid in Amazon gift cards. We stand together in these difficult times.<p>Sincerely,<p>-CEO of V<p>-Board member of W<p>-Board member of Y<p>-Director of dishonest charitable foundation Z<p>*Reminder, I&#x27;ll be out of the country 11&#x2F;17 - 1&#x2F;15, taking the entirety of our extended family to Bali. Love, peace, and prosperity to all!
Palmik超过 1 年前
Companies try to optimize profit for their shareholders, which includes paying as little as the workers will bear (or less, as in some cases people need to work to survive).<p>Similarly, I think people have the right to optimize their time and income. Of course, it can be made illegal through your employment contract. So just like big corporations, you need to include the possibility of a lawsuit and a fine into your expected outcome calculations.<p>Having been both an IC and a manager at one of the FAANGs, it&#x27;s not unimaginable to me that there will be people who can pull off two jobs and still get more done than average.<p>Personally, I&#x27;m not sure whether it&#x27;s an optimal strategy. You might be better off getting promoted really fast, if you feel you have the opportunity.<p>But I won&#x27;t judge.
DoingIsLearning超过 1 年前
This reporting will just lead to more draconian measures around remote work.<p>The only purpose of larping fantasies like this is to create outrage and boost view counts on these online newspapers.<p>The best thing you can do is really not to click on that link.<p>If we are allowed whataboutism why is there no write up piece on board members seat collectors and C-level execs?
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jacknews超过 1 年前
&quot;In exchange for a salary, they promised not to work for anyone else.&quot;<p>Is that legal? It&#x27;s certainly not &#x27;the market&#x27; at work, or working well, but simply corporations monopolizing peoples productive hours, even those not actually part of the job, with an &#x27;exclusive contract&#x27;.<p>&#x27;Employment&#x27; is a bit of a racket IMHO, so any way of getting out from under the thumb should be encouraged.
tzs超过 1 年前
For workers who are producing copyrightable output if there is any overlap between the types of things they are doing for simultaneous employers there could be questions about who owns the copyrights.<p>E.g., if you wrote very similar web code for both Meta and Tinder and one of them noticed and sued the other for copyright infringement things could get awkward.
sertbdfgbnfgsd超过 1 年前
Can&#x27;t companies know if you have income from elsewhere? After all, they have to know how much to withhold for taxes.
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lasermike026超过 1 年前
Salary, healthcare, lifestyle, savings, and retirement. The result of this equation is broken. Here are the problems.
yetanother12345超过 1 年前
&gt; three full time jobs...<p>The math does not add up.<p>One full time job is 8 hours per day (added: often more, as this is in IT). 3 x 8 = 24. There are no more than 24 hours in a day. This leaves no time for rest, eating, etc...
Dowwie超过 1 年前
Probably not the best story to share right now as thousands of qualified software engineers struggle to find just one job.
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voisin超过 1 年前
These articles are what cause managers to push for RTO.
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charles_f超过 1 年前
&gt; The company was dumping him into the worst job market since the Great Depression.<p>What? The period of the pandemic was when every software company was hiring like their lives depended on it
tennisflyi超过 1 年前
I can’t even get one. Lmao