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Never Event

41 点作者 mjs超过 1 年前

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Smaug123超过 1 年前
The USA list is an interesting conflation of what I think are two distinct classes of error: ones which can be made impossible with the right processes followed correctly, and ones which can&#x27;t.<p>&quot;Wrong site surgery&quot;, &quot;retained instrument post-operation&quot;, &quot;infant discharged to wrong person&quot;, sure, absolutely agree processes can and should be such that this can <i>literally</i> never happen.<p>On the other hand, &quot;Intraoperative or immediately postoperative death in an ASA Class I patient&quot; seems like one which is ultimately in the lap of the gods: we certainly can and should make those odds really good (maybe much better than they currently are) by improving processes and ranking surgeons by their error statistics and so on. But sometimes people do just die, and the best surgeon could make a one-in-one-thousand slip of the hand (because human bodies just aren&#x27;t built for such perfect fine motor control). And &quot;serious injury or death associated with a fall&quot;: again, I&#x27;m not sure there are processes even in principle which could prevent a determined patient from injuring themselves by taking a fall, short of tying them to the bed or otherwise disabling them. There&#x27;s a solid chance I, a basically-healthy patient in a ward, could be socially engineered into helping the miserable elderly patient next door to get out of bed for a short walk; so now your processes need to be robust to having young healthy people actively trying to break them! This problem seems not like the others.
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lqet超过 1 年前
&gt; Infant discharged to the wrong person<p>When our daughter was born, we didn&#x27;t let her out of our sight until my wife left the hospital. Sure, they have these bracelets that prevent switching babies (which happened to my wife&#x27;s grandmother in 1960ies Switzerland), but our worst nightmare was that someone simply took and walked out with her.
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benjijay超过 1 年前
A friend of mine has experienced Never Event #8 (Surgery performed on the wrong body part), went in for work on a tendon in her right ankle, woke up with a cast on the left leg.<p>edit: scrolled further and saw that in the UK we have a different list, so I guess this would count as &quot;Wrong site surgery&quot;
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rob74超过 1 年前
Sounds a bit odd to use &quot;never event&quot; for things that can and do happen - but actually I like the term, because it at least expresses the desire to reduce these events as much as possible. Same as <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Vision_Zero" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Vision_Zero</a> for traffic deaths.
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praash超过 1 年前
I remember watching a surgeon-narrated YouTube video demonstrating eye removal, and didn&#x27;t feel any stomach-turning horror from seeing the gore. I felt it when the narrator told to check something &quot;to ensure the correct eye is being enucleated&quot;.
daveguy超过 1 年前
These numbers are way too low:<p>&gt; As of 2019, 11 states have mandated reporting for never events, and an additional 16 states have mandated reporting for serious adverse events including never events.