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Google's Gemini model is delayed

97 点作者 keskival超过 1 年前

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ot超过 1 年前
&gt; Google co-founder Sergey Brin has been spending “four to five days a week” with the developers.<p>I don&#x27;t see how that can make the project move faster. I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised it has the opposite effect actually.
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throwaway4aday超过 1 年前
I think they&#x27;re probably tied up in public relations hell. They are too big and too brand protective to risk launching something that has even the tiniest chance of producing content they could get slammed for. They&#x27;re likely spending all their time on adding layer upon layer of moderation to prevent that from happening. It would be better to just ship and get ahead of it by doing a demo that contains a weird response and use that as an opportunity to educate people on what they need to be careful of when using the tool. They could spin that into them being honest and having their user&#x27;s interests at heart. Unfortunately, they also have to worry about what their advertising partners think which is the bigger problem.
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scarmig超过 1 年前
The simplest answer is probably the right one: Gemini, or at least the Gemini models that Google believes it can serve to customers in a cost effective way, simply isn&#x27;t up to par. A release where Gemini manages to be at where OpenAI was three months ago would objectively be an achievement, but it&#x27;d be a disappointment and disastrous for investor&#x27;s outlook for Google. So the delay is to kick the can down the road a bit and hope for some miraculous development that substantially improves quality.
razodactyl超过 1 年前
The rate at which the Transformer architecture can learn and adapt to new information is astounding - so it makes absolutely no sense to me that they can&#x27;t manage to throw 200 data annotators at their model and make it best-in-class.<p>They did sink capital into Anthropic recently so perhaps that shuffled things up internally &#x2F; changed some roadmaps?<p>If that&#x27;s the case - Anthropic&#x27;s models are extremely capable and can be easily launched to the top of the leaderboards if they go for a less belligerent training approach.
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siva7超过 1 年前
&gt; Google representatives earlier this year told some cloud customers and business partners they would get access to the company’s new conversational AI<p>See, that&#x27;s the difference between OPENai and old g
devinprater超过 1 年前
I&#x27;m not holding my breath.
kristofferR超过 1 年前
Bard is pretty good already, it&#x27;s often better than ChatGPT 4 for me.
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ldjkfkdsjnv超过 1 年前
Google doesnt want to disrupt its own business model, search no longer makes sense.
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Zolde超过 1 年前
What if Google is not behind OpenAI, but waiting for it to catch up? OpenAI got to iterate, but maybe Google instantly move 37&#x27;d conversational AI?
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whywhywhywhy超过 1 年前
Google will be a shell of the former glory by the end of the decade and we&#x27;ll all by baffled at how they fumbled it from such a position of dominance. Honestly the only parts of their brand I can see surviving it are YouTube, maps and Android. Everything else is completely fair game for disruption and some of it is just laying there on the table for the taking (e.g Image search and actually Search in general), heck YouTube could even be replaced if TikTok made a long form feed.<p>We&#x27;ve watched them be total top of the field world wide in machine learning, things they demoed over a decade ago now were basically magic then they proceeded to do absolutely nothing with the tech and just leave it to rot, now look at them scramble to finally try and implement some of that into reality and their organizational structure just isn&#x27;t up for the task.<p>Current CEO needs to sit in all ML meetings for a week, figure out who knows how to operate and build it, who&#x27;s stopping it from leaving the labs, separate the implementation wheat from the bureaucratic chaff, metaphorically lock the wheat in a skunkworks for a month and tell them they have to demo in 3 weeks and ship something when the doors are unlocked at the end of the month.
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