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If needed, you have a role at Microsoft that matches your compensation

209 点作者 intellectronica超过 1 年前

30 条评论

zoogeny超过 1 年前
I&#x27;ve already wasted a lot of my own time and energy on this, but I&#x27;m starting to get a bit confused on this whole thing. People seem pretty comfortable jumping to a profit-driven motivation for employees potentially leaving OpenAI in pursuit of some kind of loyalty to Altman.<p>But I&#x27;m just thinking of the rancor that has been heaped on Terraform, for example, for changing its license. The argument always seems to be that Hashicorp mislead contributors by claiming to release their contributions as open source and now they&#x27;ve reneged on that deal.<p>My understanding of OpenAI&#x27;s mission was that there was a fear that AI being developed inside of big tech companies would provide undue advantage to the very few companies that were able to afford the teams and hardware necessary. Meanwhile the rest of us would be unaware of those advancement being made behind closed doors while those behemoths created an insurmountable gap.<p>Yet now, for some reason, everyone is literally cheerleading the gutting of OpenAI and gleefully pushing the employees into one of the biggest and most notorious tech giants there ever was.<p>You almost have to wonder, is this the greatest psychological twist in recent memory? People aren&#x27;t just OK with them turning into a profit-seeking venture, they are seemingly begging for it. There is almost no opposition to it. And for what? Because of some guy none of us actually knows, who we&#x27;ve only seen on TV? And big tech guys like Paul Graham, Eric Schmidt, Satya Nadella - a literal who&#x27;s-who of the tech giant oligarchy - are all fawning over this young man, along with visits to the white house, meeting foreign presidents, etc.<p>We went from &quot;big corps are bad&quot; to &quot;big corps are saviours&quot; in less than a week. And I&#x27;m not even sure what we think they are saving us from.
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yafbum超过 1 年前
The premise of founding OpenAI as a nonprofit with &quot;nobler&quot; goals than making money was that it would be a strong magnet to the right talent. Going to work for Microsoft (or any other tech company for that matter), from that point of view, is like crossing over to the dark side of the force. It will be interesting to see how many of OpenAI&#x27;s employees were there because of its nonprofit status, and how many were there in spite of it.
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jasode超过 1 年前
<i>&gt;your desire potentially to join Sam Altman at Microsoft’s new AI Research Lab. Know that if needed, you have a role at Microsoft that matches your compensation and advances our collective mission.</i><p>The podcast This Week In Startups brought up an interesting point that many OpenAI employees are on <i>corporate sponsored work visas</i> and they really can&#x27;t jump ship to Microsoft. Those visas are tied to OpenAI.<p>Not sure how many employees it affects and of those, how many are &quot;key people&quot;.<p>(No doubt that Microsoft already understand the logistics of all this and still want to signal their open arms regardless.)
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udev4096超过 1 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nitter.net&#x2F;kevin_scott&#x2F;status&#x2F;1726971608706031670" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;nitter.net&#x2F;kevin_scott&#x2F;status&#x2F;1726971608706031670</a>
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outside1234超过 1 年前
&quot;The partnership remains strong&quot; (As we hire all of your employees).<p>This is going to be fascinating to watch. You have to think all of the usual players are going to offer everyone at OpenAI crazy salaries to break from Microsoft, if for nothing else to disrupt them from taking over OpenAI for free and to sow chaos and &quot;deal doubt&quot; amongst the remaining. It is what I would do if I were Facebook or Google at least.<p>Meanwhile, at Microsoft, they had no raises this year because of &quot;economic situations&quot; or some such BS. So watching a bunch of folks get 2x raises doesn&#x27;t sound like it is going to go down well. Not hard to imagine a lot of discontent with this from that angle as well.
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mckirk超过 1 年前
I don&#x27;t really know why, but at this point whenever I read any new OpenAI news, Yakety Sax starts playing in my head.
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alexdoesstuff超过 1 年前
Presumably, this violates MSFT&#x27;s investment agreement with OpenAI. Any reasonably competent counsel would add &quot;no-poach&quot; protection for a strategic investor investing in a startup, and this is as clear a case of poaching as there is.
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dist-epoch超过 1 年前
If the last three days didn&#x27;t happen and Microsoft announced today that they are buying OpenAI there would have been massive uproar in the tech community against that, like when they bought GitHub.<p>But now they are seen as saviors of humanity against the evil people who don&#x27;t want to commercialize AI for maximum profit.<p>Absolutely brilliant!
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iteratethis超过 1 年前
Imagine how that feels for the tens of thousands of MS employees laid off recently. &quot;Had to be done&quot;, according to 2.7T$ company.<p>Followed by: &quot;Hey guys, we don&#x27;t know exactly what you do but do join us by the several hundreds and don&#x27;t you worry about compensation, we pretty much have unlimited money to throw at this.&quot;<p>And then they say people are too cynical of tech.
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rickreynoldssf超过 1 年前
This seems to me like it&#x27;s another nail in the coffin for Google. With Microsoft and its resources (essentially) fully in control of OpenAI tech without the non-profit chains, it can really turn everything upside down, kind of like what Google did to them in the 2000&#x27;s. When was the last time you used Bard?
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crazygringo超过 1 年前
Few people are going to want to move unless most people are moving. So there is a coordination and timing issue here.<p>I really wonder if there&#x27;s going to be a new letter from OpenAI employees about demanding the board reinstate Sam and Greg and then resign -- but this time with an <i>actual deadline</i> that the undersigned declare their mass resignation if not met. A genuine letter of conditional resignation. No more &quot;<i>may choose</i> to resign&quot; -- this time, &quot;<i>do resign if</i>&quot;.<p>Then everybody knows to move to Microsoft literally the next day, all at once.<p>Given the holiday, it seems like midnight the end of this Sunday would be suitable.
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cma超过 1 年前
Wasn&#x27;t OpenAI created as a counter to big tech AI labs?
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Vermyndax超过 1 年前
We&#x27;ll see this again in discovery.
nemo44x超过 1 年前
Salesforce CEO did the same yesterday. We know twitter can run with a skelton-crew but I’m not sure OpenAI can survive a mass exodus of top AI talent. This is a very interesting sort of collective action but non-adversarial. Management is clamoring for labor and making public offers to people they haven’t met to pay top dollar.
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gigel82超过 1 年前
I wonder how Microsoft employees feel like now, after being paid the worst of all FAANG, no merit increases, tens of thousands of layoffs over the last year, they&#x27;ll now be matching the outrageous comp packages for incoming OpenAI hires...
croes超过 1 年前
&gt;advances our collective mission.<p>Microsoft&#x27;s profit.
seydor超过 1 年前
Msft has enough money to strongarm the law so they can somehow purchase openAi in the end
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udev4096超过 1 年前
Can you all please use nitter instead? It loads a lot faster and doesn&#x27;t track you
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manishsharan超过 1 年前
Microsoft bagged the Best Black Friday Deal ever !<p>Re-Brand ChatGPT as Clippy Reloaded!
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gardenhedge超过 1 年前
Tidbit: Kevin Scott has a podcast (&quot;Behind the Tech&quot;) and he had Mira Murati as a guest in July. The podcast interview itself isn&#x27;t very interesting though.
synergy20超过 1 年前
it will be hard to match up though, before ousting Sam, those OpenAI-ers are expecting tens of millions or more from shares, once they join microsoft, that&#x27;s pretty much unlikely, which is one reason people go to startups in silicon valley instead of big companies.
idlejitter超过 1 年前
This is a part of laying the groundwork for the very first $1T AI startup. A real unicorn.
darknavi超过 1 年前
&gt; Know that if needed, you have a role at Microsoft that matches your compensation<p>Great if true.
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DebtDeflation超过 1 年前
They don&#x27;t even need all 700+ or even 500 or even 100 employees to join.<p>If they can get the 4 technical members of the executive team not counting Ilya - Mira, Woj, Bob, and Peter, plus a few other key people like Karpathy then they have what they need and OpenAI is effectively dead.
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koliber超过 1 年前
... but you&#x27;ll need to use Teams for collaboration.
vinni2超过 1 年前
That’s an alternative hostile takeover brilliant!
rurban超过 1 年前
I would rather wait until Ilja is gone, and then everything will be back to normal. This is much more likely than most joining MS; and I&#x27;d rather join Anthropic over MS.
ramesh31超过 1 年前
Embrace, extend, extinguish.
gumballindie超过 1 年前
I knew microsoft lacked ethics but this is beyond that. This is akin to a hostile takeover, simply because openai fired their inside man.<p>Having said that - i hope they do move over. That’s where ai ends and becomes nothing more but clippy with sprinkles.
beachwood23超过 1 年前
Sounds a little desperate now.<p>MSFT should just give the employees space to make their own decision.
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