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Why America Abandoned the Greatest Economy in History

54 点作者 safaa1993超过 1 年前

14 条评论

calamari4065超过 1 年前
It&#x27;s really disheartening to think too much about the state of American society. Our country is <i>deeply</i> broken on such a scale that fixing it will take <i>generations</i> if it&#x27;s possible at all. And there&#x27;s the absolute certainty that we will fail to act until it&#x27;s too late: climate, war, civil instability, something will happen, we won&#x27;t act, and everything will get so much worse.<p>The problem is so big that is seems utterly impossible.<p>Even if we elect some bright-eyed big dreamer utpoist as president, the very structure of our government is so rotten that it will not permit any change. It&#x27;s so broken that it really seems like it&#x27;d be less work to tear it all down and start over. Otherwise it&#x27;s a generations-long battle to reform everything. Can you even imagine what it would take to get Congress to agree to term limits? They can&#x27;t even agree to pay the national debt.<p>What can we do? Voting isn&#x27;t enough, protesting isn&#x27;t enough, what&#x27;s left?<p>I really hate living here. The cognitive dissonance between the rah rah america best types and the people starving in the streets is just sickening. Something is very wrong in the world and it&#x27;s so huge that you can&#x27;t even imagine it getting better
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pram超过 1 年前
It wasn’t just the US. The energy crisis seems to have had extraordinary long tail effects. Everything was stagnating in the 70s and then we end up with Reagan, Thatcher, Gorbachev, etc.<p>It might just be that the structure and productivity of the post war economies, a lot of them heavily focused on manufacturing, had just become increasingly unprofitable?
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robwwilliams超过 1 年前
Key point is increase in income distribution. Before Regan a top marginal rate of 70%. I remember hearing my dad and his friends squawk about this and how hard it would be to buy and maintain a larger yacht. We need to get it back up to 70% for top 1%.
vondur超过 1 年前
It seems a lot of this had to due with the economic situation after WW2. The US was the only country that produced stuff, most of Europe and Japan were devastated. Then competition came back in the 70&#x27;s coupled with inflation and the oil embargo, which hit the US hard. Reagan basically started deficit spending to pump up the military in the 80&#x27;s.
gumby超过 1 年前
&gt; Robert F. Kennedy emerges as an unlikely hero in this telling.<p>I don&#x27;t know why this is unlikely. He was the smart brother and the only one who gave a shit back then.<p>Arguably (and I believe it) Ted K legitimately grew a social conscience in the 80s.
runnr_az超过 1 年前
The radical offshoring of America’s manufacturing seems worth a look. When I think about those towns in the Northeast which were once prosperous, the biggest difference between 1975 and now? The plant closed.
mdnahas超过 1 年前
This article missed one huge change in the economy: the shipping container.<p>Incomes of the workers continued to increase, they were just outside the USA. Rich Americans were running a world economy, not just the American economy, so their incomes increased. American workers did well - their incomes remained high while competing with everyone in the globe.
refurb超过 1 年前
This article is based on so many flawed premises that I&#x27;m not sure where to start.<p>First off, since when the &quot;American Dream&quot;, earning &quot;more than your parents&quot;? The American Dream, as far as I know, what always &quot;start with nothing and have a comfortable middle class existence&quot;.<p>And it&#x27;s funny that the article complains about moving away from the New Deal politics. Europe, which didn&#x27;t move away from New Deal politics, saw <i>worse economic growth</i> than the US did over the past few decades and if anything, Europe as well move away from the more extreme elements of socialism because it was choking their economy.<p>It&#x27;s also full of &quot;facts&quot; that imply something that isn&#x27;t true. <i>&quot;The top marginal income-tax rate was 70 percent when Reagan took office and 28 percent when he left.&quot;</i>. This is an old trope that completely ignores the different tax structure back when rates were 70% (i.e. nobody actually paid them).<p>It then lambasts &quot;Reagonomics&quot; as &quot;taking hard earned white money and giving it to black welfare queens&quot; (yikes), yet ignores the fact that growth in minority incomes has been higher than whites over the past few decades and in fact, whites aren&#x27;t even the highest income ethnic group any more.<p>This feels more like an emotional analysis than anything fact based. Of course you&#x27;ll never find out the real reason for this economic changes if you don&#x27;t look at the facts.
opportune超过 1 年前
This is such a complex topic that an entire volume of books could be written on it. Unsurprisingly the article just scratches the surface barely enough to do it justice.<p>I wrote up a long “better” explanation I hope to share here later, but suffice it to say, this article greatly overstates the causation coming from the public’s political views when it really was a consequence of more material changes. Namely, communications technology, computers, and financial innovation started allowing smaller groups of people to produce value (obsoleting many low&#x2F;mid provincial middle class jobs in the process) for much larger markets just as the rest of the developed world started to catch back up in manufacturing. As a double whammy plastics and aluminum hit prime time and disrupted the massive existing steel&#x2F;textile base businesses they competed against. And the USSR began falling behind for their own reasons so nobody really worried about losing the lower&#x2F;middle classes to socialism - but short of extreme isolationism it’s not like anything could really fix the competitiveness problem.
gustavus超过 1 年前
Because in part the greatest economy came out of being the only economy left after 2 world wars wiped out pretty much everyone else&#x27;s and the Iron Curtain was brought down to trap 1&#x2F;3 of the worlds population under a genocidal communist dictatorship.
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FrankWilhoit超过 1 年前
It was a revolt against accountability, nothing else.
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kdwikzncba超过 1 年前
A pet fantasy that I have is to coin a phrase. Now I don&#x27;t know if this is a coincidence, but since I started using the phrase &quot;free market fundamentalism&quot; a couple of years ago I&#x27;ve seen other people use it. For example, its used in the subtitle in this article.
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segmondy超过 1 年前
Racism and class warfare fueled the decline. Look at every single location that has declined, it can be attributed to one or the other. Hate is causing the country to implode and we can&#x27;t even see it.
aredox超过 1 年前
&quot;left-leaning parties [...] have become dominated by college-educated voters and lost working-class support&quot;, which then proceeded to elect college-educated right-wingers with fanciful (and wrong, or more accurately deceptive) economic theories.
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