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Each New Gen Finds It More Difficult to Surpass the Wealth of Their Parents

27 点作者 safaa1993超过 1 年前

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opportune超过 1 年前
I think a lot of commentary on this problem doesn&#x27;t fully account for the historical conditions that allowed for such a rapid increase in material prosperity for the average person in the 20th century (especially in the US), and the historical conditions leading to its partial reversal.<p>The population was expanding so rapidly, and enough actual investment (in terms of value delivered in the form of usable roads, not $) was made in infrastructure, that a young family could acquire a home without having to buy from existing homeowners. Because of suburbanization and very high demand, massive amounts of new housing was built on inexpensive land.<p>Retirements were generally funded with pensions, and there was still a general societal expectation that you&#x27;d take care of your parents when they became old. This was more practically workable as most women became homemakers or only worked part-time once they had children. Medicine was not as advanced as it is now, so people weren&#x27;t kept alive in poor health for as long as they are now, and there weren&#x27;t as many uber-expensive treatments necessitating people to save up large amounts in case they needed them for care later. With way more working adults per retired adult than now, and with retirements more funded via cashflow (of children&#x27;s jobs or from a company&#x27;s revenue) rather than ROI like they are now, there was a lot less pressure to extract value out of businesses.<p>And on top of all that, Asia (except Japan) was basically undeveloped, and Europe (and Japan) was destroyed - the rest of the world almost non-factors economically. There was very little pressure to lower wages due to international competition.<p>There are no simple or obvious fixes to these problems. Promoting housing construction could help a lot, but besides that, we don&#x27;t have a ton of options. The &quot;pie&quot; of existing assets will always grow unless it&#x27;s destroyed (in war mostly), so it will always be harder and harder to earn your way into a decent slice. As technology improves international competition will only become more of a factor in price, not less. And there is no &quot;solution&quot; to the increased number of retirees per worker, or more advanced medical care costing more, that isn&#x27;t horrific. But on the bright side it doesn&#x27;t seem like these problems will get that much worse than they are now.
jauntywundrkind超过 1 年前
Wealth seem so so. I want a more rich and cultural world for people to hope for, and be able to hope &amp; trust in that society. Wealth is just one way to assure people of their lives, and it&#x27;s an expensive assurance.<p>The suggestion that wealth has to go up, while also there always being more people, seems fraught with scary ramifications. We do need a world that feels on an upswing! That the youth have opportunity &amp; things to look forward to! But I think a wider view is important. And I worry that wealth alone isn&#x27;t enough; I worry that even if we were finding it easy to suprass our parents wealth, we&#x27;d we might still find it horrible and daunting.
padiyar83超过 1 年前
This I think is confined to 21st century western world. Asia (India + China largely) on the other hand is seeing a reverse phenomenon where the next generation frequently end up being more wealthy than their parents and grandparents.
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helen___keller超过 1 年前
economics have been largely unpredictable since the industrial revolution. i have no idea what the situation will look like in 1-3 generations when the largest gen dies off, declining birth rate, etc<p>it does suck for a large number of young people who have no hopes of ever owning a home close to jobs. Right now if I&#x27;m searching for homes in my urban region (the whole region), the graph of prices shows a mode at 1-1.25MM. Even current rates notwithstanding, this is a bafflingly high price for a region of 5 million people, statistically 90-95% of have no hope of affording prices that high without some external wealth (e.g. parents).
Gunax超过 1 年前
My concern with economic debates is that there are always enough statistics to play with to make whatever point desired.<p>For instance: why compare wealth and not income? And if we do, at what age? Do we compare individuals, or households...?<p>I don&#x27;t want to say it&#x27;s wrong per se, just that I&#x27;ve been misled enough before that I don&#x27;t want to trust anything.
fasthands9超过 1 年前
&gt;the economy has become polarized, resulting in a diminished middle class and an exacerbated wealth gap that is increasingly formidable to overcome. This reality has not escaped the notice of new generations, who are progressively more politically active, radical, and discontented with capitalism....A telling indication is that your parents&#x27; income now stands as the most reliable predictor of your future earnings<p>I think the data is interesting but I don&#x27;t understand the interpretation of the data. Knowing nothing else, isn&#x27;t the pattern of the graph somewhat suggestive that inequality is going down and your parents income is having less of an effect on your future income?<p>There&#x27;s obviously a lot going on with change of wealth over time, but if we lived in a society where children of the 90th percentile and 10th percentile had the <i>same chance</i> of exceeding their parents wealth that would seem to suggest that people were playing with different floors. That seems to be closer to the older generations than the new ones.<p>My somewhat cynical belief is that income is more meritocratic than it used to be and downwardly mobile children of wealthy people would like to blame wealthy people - instead of accept the reality that their life at the 50% percentile feels less materially wealthy simply because they are comparing it to their childhood at the 90% percentile.
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elmerfud超过 1 年前
Does it really? What about abundance as a measure of wealth? Every generation has orders of magnitude more abundance that the prior. We have an abundance of things that our parents and grandparents couldn&#x27;t even imagine.
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bdcravens超过 1 年前
These conversations focus strictly on the middle class. This ignores the idea that there&#x27;s always a hungry group from poor families able to earn multiples more than their parents.