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The big bet on "tiny homes" to fix homelessness

25 点作者 evolve2k超过 1 年前

9 条评论

psunavy03超过 1 年前
&gt; Advocates for the homeless, meanwhile, worry that the tiny shelter boom will divert funds that could otherwise go to new permanent housing, preventing people from moving into a real home for even longer. The rush of private industry into the space also gives advocates pause, and they worry that cities will buy bare-bones, cheaper models, place them in remote parts of town, and criminalize those who refuse to go.<p>There needs to be a circle of hell for those who screw over other people when they insist that &quot;perfect&quot; gets in the way of &quot;good enough to be a first step.&quot; If people are sleeping on the streets because the problem isn&#x27;t getting fixed your way, you&#x27;re part of the problem. It&#x27;s Maslow&#x27;s Hierarchy of Needs here. Step one: get people out of tent encampments and doorways. Step two: get them help to get back on their feet.
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JoeAltmaier超过 1 年前
Our city provides a room in a rooming-house to the stable homeless. So they can have a shower, sit in a common room, lock up their stuff and not worry about thieves (including city teams that clear out shantytowns&#x2F; steal from the homeless and create more homelessness. Yes they did that).<p>Changes everything. Having an address, a place to change, to keep clean clothes makes employment 1000X easier.
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yogurtboy超过 1 年前
I love these tiny home blocks, they feel like a great first step; however, every article about a solution to homelessness seems to brush a bigger problem under the rug: zoning laws.<p>One route to fixing homelessness on a bigger scale is to repeal zoning laws. Until local politicians and their constituents start to edit their zoning laws (and therefore lower the cost of housing and other civic projects), most &#x27;solutions&#x27; to the homelessness crisis will remain bandaids and not cures.<p>If anyone here knows of any recents attempts&#x2F;successes in this area, I would love to read them. I hate zoning laws and enjoy seeing them ripped down
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Racing0461超过 1 年前
The issue is city governments don&#x27;t want tiny homes. They want the large mcmansions on the outskirts&#x2F;suburbs and highrises in the city. These are more expensive so they generate more property tax.<p>Builders don&#x27;t want to make a 150k home when the initial costs (mainly time) takes the same amount as a 400k home. So builders themselves don&#x27;t want to build starter homes anymore too.
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hombre_fatal超过 1 年前
We need this kind of housing option for everyone who wants it, and TFA has a nice section on this topic.<p>I happily lived in a 64sqft dwelling for years surfing at the beach. I would have lived in the same tiny box to get close to a good job in my favorite cities if that&#x27;s all I could afford.<p>NIMBYism and turd-tier US urban planning are so exhausting.
GaryNumanVevo超过 1 年前
Tiny homes are a vanity driven &quot;false solution&quot;. It&#x27;s massively easier (for the homeless and the tax payer) by simply building programs that prevent homelessness.<p>In fact there&#x27;s an entire cottage industry around taking public money, shuffling it through a hundred non-profits, resulting in a few pathetic sheds. (I&#x27;m looking at you SF).<p>If you directly assist people who are at risk of becoming homeless, there&#x27;s no room for your political cronies to get a kickback.
MichaelRo超过 1 年前
I feel that I&#x27;m going to get fiercely downvoted for expressing this but I always felt that a realistic and cost-constrained solution for homelessness would look a lot more similar to a prison than to a lavish suburb.<p>There are several problems to solve and prisons do it to the best of their capabilities, being also constrained by the population housed inside:<p>- Cost of operation must be minimized. Comfort and space is a luxury for people who can afford it. When the state needs to provide it for a large number of inmates, small rooms with little privacy is all that&#x27;s possible. There&#x27;s a vast difference between a Swedish prison and one in Antananarivo and eventually it all reduces to available budget. It&#x27;s not like Madagascar wouldn&#x27;t like to have Swedish prison conditions, they just can&#x27;t afford it. In fact by reductio ad absurdum if they would DO have Swedish prison conditions they&#x27;d probably have a problem keeping people out, not in :)<p>- Food would follow the same typology. Expect prison &#x2F; hospital &#x2F; army level food rather than Michelin 3 stars restaurant quality.<p>- Unlike a &quot;normal&quot; neighborhood, expect a much higher percent of troublesome population. Mental illness, disability, substance abuse, violent behavior that is. So the problem is not just housing these people, is providing protection not just from the natural elements but from their own kind. Communities like this simply cannot function as regular suburbs, they probably need to be policed and controlled if not like a prison at least like a psychiatric institution.<p>Before jumping at my throat like rabied dogs for daring to propose such a revolting solution rather than build lavish villas to each homeless person on &quot;money taken from the rich&quot;, in fact let&#x27;s build TWO MANSIONS for each person! (I&#x27;m being sarcastic if you haven&#x27;t noticed)... think a bit that it&#x27;s better than sleeping on the streets, particularly winter streets. And people would be free to leave and live as they wish ... if they can afford something better nothing&#x27;s stopping them. For some unfortunately, this might be their entire existence so needs to be made as endurable as possible but they need to be realizable realistically and not just dreams of utopias just so we can go to sleep without actually doing anything.
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mrguyorama超过 1 年前
How does making the box cheaper solve the fact that for the majority of homeless people, the land the box is on is the cost factor that prevents them from scrounging up legal residence? They already have tents, if they could put them somewhere legally they would! That&#x27;s the entire problem for the ones that &quot;don&#x27;t want&quot; the &quot;help&quot; of all these stupid &quot;solutions&quot;.<p>My city conducted a &quot;sweep&quot; (read: stole all the stuff from our homeless people and threw it in a dumpster and just otherwise harassed them) of a homeless camp that was situated on a highway off-ramp. Now that area is empty, unused, and completely devoid of a point. What the heck was the concern? It wasn&#x27;t a crime hotspot, it wasn&#x27;t building up trash, it&#x27;s completely distant from any business or facility that could be &quot;annoyed&quot; by a homeless camp, it was just a perfectly good use of public property.<p>Where the fuck should they go then? There aren&#x27;t enough beds in the shelter, and the shelter isn&#x27;t even close to the social services they need. I&#x27;m so tired of people doing everything they can to apologize for destroying human beings for being inconvenient. &quot;Oh but they do drugs in public and make trash and they poop in the open&quot;<p>Okay, I&#x27;ve just taken away your legal residence and your bank accounts. Where the fuck do YOU poop?
morelisp超过 1 年前
<i>[Advocates for the homeless] worry that cities will buy bare-bones, cheaper models, place them in remote parts of town, and criminalize those who refuse to go.</i><p><i>[Tiny homes] may provide cities with the legal authority to then clear out any remaining tent encampments: Funk told me she can determine “exactly how many units you need in order to make it illegal to sleep on the streets within the city limits in San Francisco.”</i><p>&quot;Advocates for the homeless are worried cities might abuse this; cities and tiny home sellers, meanwhile, are openly salivating to abuse it&quot;? This seems less like a, uh, &quot;big bet&quot; and more like yet another excuse to waste money and harass the homeless.