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The EPA wants total removal of lead pipes

266 点作者 MilnerRoute超过 1 年前

21 条评论

luplex超过 1 年前
Lead exposure is a global health problem that we have a clear path to solving - enable governments to track and remove sources of lead. If you&#x27;re looking for a worthy recipient of your EOY donations, do check out the Lead Exposure Elimination Project:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;leadelimination.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;leadelimination.org&#x2F;</a>
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instagib超过 1 年前
Why you should drain your hot water heater regularly and not use hot water for drinking:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blogs.edf.org&#x2F;health&#x2F;2018&#x2F;02&#x2F;26&#x2F;lead-hot-water-issue-worth-testing&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blogs.edf.org&#x2F;health&#x2F;2018&#x2F;02&#x2F;26&#x2F;lead-hot-water-issue...</a><p>They’re lead traps.
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keepamovin超过 1 年前
All environmental sources of lead that can readily contaminate humans should be removed. This is a good move. It would be great to see an international treaty on this, with goals and enforcement for signatories.
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Jimmc414超过 1 年前
It’s refreshing to see the EPA seemingly doing it’s job.
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scotty79超过 1 年前
This should have been done 20 years ago.
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superseeplus超过 1 年前
How harmful is lead in solder used to join copper pipes? Lead free solder was mandated only around 1986, so presumably there are a lot of copper pipes around using solder containing lead.
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andrewstuart超过 1 年前
America&#x27;s Water Problem Is Way Worse than You Think<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ZY0IscIvue4" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=ZY0IscIvue4</a>
quickthrower2超过 1 年前
Not in US but I feel much better having an RO system and drinking that water
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refurb超过 1 年前
It seems like removal of lead pipes is overkill? Typically lead pipes develop a layer of deposits that pacify the metal, stop corrosion and prevent lead from leeching out.<p>The Flint water crisis was a cock-up by the water utility that resulted in loss of pacification and leeching of lead, but that a mistake that can be prevented.<p>Seems like regular water testing (already done) is a reasonable solution. I could see decommissioning of lead pipes (i.e. an work done needs to replace them) but a wholesale &quot;removal all lead pipe whether or not they contribute to lead exposure&quot; seems like overkill.
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giantg2超过 1 年前
It would probably be better to have a longer term solution. $45 billion for lead today. I&#x27;m guessing in another generation they&#x27;re choose to remediate some other contamination like PFOAs or some plastics used in pipe liners.<p>At this point it&#x27;d be better to just give grants for installing home water filters and then use the money from chlorination to supply an annual filter stipend. Cover all the issues at once.
rendall超过 1 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;Fcvcg" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.is&#x2F;Fcvcg</a>
h2odragon超过 1 年前
We should go back to wood: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hiddenhydrology.org&#x2F;the-water-in-the-wood&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.hiddenhydrology.org&#x2F;the-water-in-the-wood&#x2F;</a>
blastbking超过 1 年前
Finally... should have been done decades ago.
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zackmorris超过 1 年前
I wish we had a public database of who approved lead pipes after a date when they were known to be dangerous. Same with all of the other health and environmental threats we face with micro plastics, PFAS, glyphosate, freon, etc etc etc, going back 100 years.<p>With that database, we could create liens on the corporations&#x2F;families&#x2F;individuals which profited from passing their externalities onto the public. Then they could pay for the cleanup and&#x2F;or go bankrupt.<p>Where I&#x27;m going with this is that the current power structure in the US is built on ignorance. Many millionaires and billionaires are only wealthy because they&#x27;ve gamed the legal system to dodge most claims against them.<p>Examples are the Sackler family, the Koch family, the Walton family, the list is long:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;kerryadolan&#x2F;2020&#x2F;12&#x2F;17&#x2F;billion-dollar-dynasties-these-are-the-richest-families-in-america&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.forbes.com&#x2F;sites&#x2F;kerryadolan&#x2F;2020&#x2F;12&#x2F;17&#x2F;billion-...</a><p>Now, I have nothing against wealth creation through hard work and building things. But when it&#x27;s done by corrupting the system, at some level that must be considered unpatriotic. Yet a politician wears a lapel pin and claims to love America while accepting money from the people who hurt us. This is a failure of leadership.<p>I&#x27;d propose that wealthy individuals can start setting an example by doing the right thing in a very public way, or risk bringing the wrath of the masses against them. And it wouldn&#x27;t take much to pull the wool off people&#x27;s eyes, especially with AI. How hard would it really be to use historical precedents as training data? We&#x27;re in the midst of a Global Awakening where everyone can see in real time that the mainstream news doesn&#x27;t match what they see reported by real people on social media. We&#x27;ve also reached a level of technological development where people are starting to provide resources for themselves outside the system via renewable energy, automation, hydroponics, 3D printing, etc. Those trends point to a reduction in wealth concentration and authoritarianism.<p>Yet the wealthy and powerful manipulate the system even harder, running authoritarian candidates, spreading anti-intellectual propaganda, starting proxy wars.. and soon using AI to trick people to vote against their own self-interest at even more unbelievable levels. At a time when people are barely able to earn enough money to make rent and put food on the table. You don&#x27;t do that when people are struggling, you do it in the boom times like the mid-2000s. I almost wonder if they have a guilt complex, like they want to get caught?
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justrealist超过 1 年前
I don&#x27;t object but honestly lead paint is a much bigger issue and I wish we&#x27;d invest there instead.
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romafirst3超过 1 年前
Does everyone else have a subscription to the Washington post? Could we just have a system where we don’t post pay walled articles?<p>It seems hacker news community members are okay with posting web archive links (there are none here) in the comments but why are we even playing this game at all? Let’s not post articles without free sources.
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slackfan超过 1 年前
The problem isn&#x27;t really the pipes themselves (lead by itself isn&#x27;t reactive with water), it&#x27;s the fact that we keep messing with various additive chemistries, which may cause reactions with the lead pipes.<p>All in all another gov boondoggle to enable another another gov boondoggle framed as &quot;THINK OF THE CHILDREN&quot; panicbait. (Because adults never get lead poisoning, and are immune to its effects completely and utterly). &lt;&#x2F;sarcasm&gt;<p>Meh.
fsckboy超过 1 年前
the EPA could be concerned with lead pipes leaching into the natural environment, but civil engineered lead pipes leaching into drinking water is not the EPA&#x27;s bailiwick.
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dehrmann超过 1 年前
While I like the idea, I&#x27;ve also &quot;fixed&quot; enough mostly working systems over the years to know that if it&#x27;s not done carefully, this could cause more problems than it fixes.
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bfrog超过 1 年前
Is it such a terrible thing? If there’s money to make it happen then by all means. Know my home town though it could plow through all that money and get all of one neighborhood worth of service lines replaced. Atrocious inefficiency would be an understatement.
6stringmerc超过 1 年前
WE NEED MAKE WORK INFRASTRUCTURE DITCH DIGGING JOBS IN THE US<p>DO THE MATH ON MUNGER&#x27;S WEALTH VERSUS WHAT IT COULD DO IF DIRECTLY INVESTED IN LOCAL CCC TYPE PROJECTS.<p>Why not? Oh, you wanna be the rich class too? Enjoy your crumbling kingdom.