Quad9 wins appeal against Sony

Haha, I enjoy that Quad9 brought up the domain name in question, playing into the Streisand effect. Maybe just a little bit out of spite from having caused them such a hassle. So today I learnt about <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;canna.to" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;canna.to</a>. Thank you, Sony. It wouldn&#x27;t have happened without you.

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So in the end, the only difference Sony made, for me, is that I now know about that website on the domain they tried to block.

In my opinion, the critical part here is that Sony directly tried to force Quad9 to block resolving the domain canna.to WITHOUT first trying to approach canna.to directly. The court points that out as:<p>&quot;A blocking claim also does not exist because the plaintiff has not done enough to take legal action against the host provider of the disputed service.&quot;

I guess Sony is resorting to lawfare so that you won&#x27;t pirate those shows they&#x27;re taking off the Playstation Store.

Since the rootkit, I have always voted with my dollars in non-Sony directions.

I think the main moral of the story is not to base your company in Europe if you don&#x27;t want to be subject to painful copyright litigation in German courts.

Ruling (in English): <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.quad9.net&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;URT_05_12_2023_en_Korr_MH_en2_2e629b1f7b.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.quad9.net&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;URT_05_12_2023_en_Korr_MH_en2_...</a>

&gt; The court has also ruled that the case cannot be taken to a higher court and their decision is the final word in this particular case.<p>How can a non supreme court rule this? Why won&#x27;t all courts just do this if its allowed?

Funnily enough, I was watching the Spotify series on Netflix, The Playlist, and saw Sony Music Group&#x27;s fight with the Pirate Bay(which covers similar themes) before Spotify exploded on to the scene. This was a real event too covered in the early episodes - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Pirate_Bay_trial" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;The_Pirate_Bay_trial</a>

Offtopic, I now realize why they&#x27;re called Quad9, and I wonder if they got the IP first then came up with the name or how it went?

Data over pure DNS is trivial. A simple demo site for anyone to try it out. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dnskv.com" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;dnskv.com</a> $ dig txt quad9.dnskv.com

That&#x27;s like going after the telephone book publishers for providing the number of the escort service.

Excellent news indeed

Yet another thing irrelevant to me by spending 2 hours learning BIND and spinning up my own resolver... :)

Tangential, but why are people so terrible at redaction? The PDF at <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;quad9.net&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;URT_05_12_2023_en_Korr_MH_en2_2e629b1f7b.pdf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;quad9.net&#x2F;uploads&#x2F;URT_05_12_2023_en_Korr_MH_en2_2e62...</a> literally just drew black boxes over text that&#x27;s still copyable :(