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Maybe We Already Have Runaway Machines

24 点作者 jdkee超过 1 年前

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wyager超过 1 年前
The first runaway &quot;AIs&quot;, so to speak, may be <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Waqf" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Waqf</a> which are like an early Islamic version of the modern trust.<p>These Waqfs grew so large that at times, they controlled a significant fraction of the economy of various Islamic countries. Many functions like social welfare programs were completely funded by these entities. One of the reasons Waqfs gradually declined is that they threatened the authority of governments in the same region.<p>1600s Europeans were worried enough about this (runaway legal entities caused by interest-bearing trusts) that they invented the <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Rule_against_perpetuities" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Rule_against_perpetuities</a><p>There are certain US states which do <i>not</i> have the Rule Against Perpetuities, so it&#x27;s possible that even in the absence of modern AI, we would have seen the resurgence of Waqf-style runaway perpetual autonomous corporations.
Ginger-Pickles超过 1 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;ZN4MP" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;ZN4MP</a>
tempaway48751超过 1 年前
<i>The failure mode of governments is to become “exploitative and corrupt,” Runciman notes. The failure mode of corporations, as extensions of an independent civil society, is that “their independence undoes social stability by allowing those making the money to make their own rules.” There is only a “narrow corridor”—a term Runciman borrows from the economists Daron Acemoglu and James A. Robinson—in which the artificial agents balance each other out, and citizens get to enjoy the sense of control that emerges from an atmosphere of freedom and security. The ideal scenario is, in other words, a kludgy equilibrium.</i><p>This is really interesting; to draw parallels between AI and the emergence of States and Corporations, which are two other inventions that we have lost control of. You could argue that Climate Change is an X-risk bought about by Corporations, which lumber around our civil landscape like single minded giants pursuing profit above all else and using regulatory capture to push externalities onto the populace.<p>I&#x27;m a big fan of The Corporation (2003), a documentary that explores how Corporations came to have legal rights, and asks, if Corporations are legal people, what sort of people are they? They exhibit reckless disregard for the safety of others, deceitfulness, the incapacity to experience guilt, and the failure to conform to social norms and respect the law, which matches the DSM-IV&#x27;s symptoms of psychopathy.
MilStdJunkie超过 1 年前
I&#x27;m sorry to always inject nuclear weapons into everything[1], but the relationship with nuclear technology is another one.<p>Nukes in the silo essentially act as an enforcement penalty on their own people. No dissident in a nuclear state is willing to openly accept foreign aid for fear of the enemy; no foreign party is willing to openly aid dissidents in a nuclear state for fear of the enemy. Effectively, the stability of <i>both</i> nuclear states is created by the technology that they are both forced to maintain. They&#x27;re now invasion-proof - the absolute core selling point of getting these things - but the technology over time inherently creates a stratified state. Effectively, it stands as its own system, the weapons creating hubris which creates fear which creates more nuclear states.<p>Veterans often state that in theatre, combat conditions, there is a sensation that the war is also a self-guiding machine, somehow separate from the men fighting it. While evocative, it is, of course, an illusion. The ones making war aren&#x27;t the ones fighting it, so it seems guided by unseen malevolence.<p>[1] Kinda-not-really-sorry. I still don&#x27;t think any human civilization has come to grips with the tech yet. It&#x27;s disconcertingly like machine guns in 1897.
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