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Ask HN: Would url submissions work better if an initial comment were required?

2 点作者 johndunne超过 1 年前
Recently I&#x27;ve been heading to the &#x27;new&#x27; section of HackerNews to try find interesting topics on HN. But I&#x27;ve noticed a large number of submissions with 0 comments. Would it not be more useful to require the poster of the url add a comment to kick off the discussion?<p>I mean, if someone took the time to post a url on HN, surely a discussion on the topic is the reason? Why not kick off the discussion with your own comment and reason for posting? For me, this is the greater value of HN.

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skilled超过 1 年前
What do you mean you&#x27;ve recently been heading to the &quot;New&quot; section? That happens to be how the site works. Submissions don&#x27;t end up on the front page for any other reason than people browsing <i>New</i> and upvoting submissions.<p>The majority of submissions have 0 comments because again, that is how the site works. HN is a link aggregator first and foremost, and discussion follows upon the discovery of a resource that encourages intellectual curiosity. This is entirely controlled and decided by the site users themselves, not the one who submits. The authority is &quot;users as a whole&quot; rather than &quot;a single user&quot;.<p>&gt; if someone took the time to post a url on HN, surely a discussion on the topic is the reason?<p>For sure a lot of discussions could benefit from an initial comment, but the main reason is generally the fact that the submitter himself found it interesting and wants to share. Alternatively, it&#x27;s a highly trending topic (breaking news or something else) and it&#x27;s left up for a broader discussion.<p>&gt; Would it not be more useful to require the poster of the url add a comment to kick off the discussion?<p>This would lead to a lot less submissions overall which is bad for the site and the community.<p>In my own experience as someone who submits stories, there are often stories I will submit that I myself don&#x27;t grasp fully, but I know for a fact that other people on this site would be interested to read&#x2F;learn about it. In such a case, I could never leave a meaningful comment but I could still benefit from all the karma that comes with a good submission.
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turtleyacht超过 1 年前
It&#x27;s a good point, in that I imagine the submitter is hosting an ephemeral salon of sorts: much of the atmosphere easily prepared, and no need for chairs, greetings, or snacks.<p>So I do feel one ought to play the host for a bit, reply often, and expect replies during a certain window.<p>On the other hand, I lack a lot of expertise in the submitted link more often than not, and the sole motivation to submit is &quot;I think HN would find this interesting.&quot; Still, it would help to set context in a way, and filling in the first comment would do that (even to initialize the &quot;host&#x27;s level of knowledge&quot;). The comment could end with a topical question.<p>For me, &#x2F;newest is like the borderlands, and the core hub is the front page. Sometimes I can visit the bustling downtown and drop in on some really deep, insightful discussions. It&#x27;s cool to see a new link also appear on the front page that I had upvoted--almost like &quot;validation of the tribe.&quot;<p>After reading the comment from skilled, I don&#x27;t feel as bad about submitting without a comment, but in the future, I should take your thoughts to heart and at least say <i>something,</i> even just to answer why I thought it was interesting. (Just me, though.)<p>Of course, that first comment should come with the implicit preface that it might have been a totally random collection of neurons that coalesced to a spark of mind to submit the article, hopefully to be overtaken with others weighing in.<p>The comment from krapp is also a good point, so that&#x27;s another consideration.
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krapp超过 1 年前
The problem with this is that many people here never bother to actually read the posted article, and initial comments will tend to bias the thread in a particular direction, lowering discussion quality.<p>Discussion should be about the article, and the article should stand or fall on its own merits. Who posted it and why is irrelevant, that&#x27;s what text posts are for.<p>If you can&#x27;t find something worth commenting on, or if a subject doesn&#x27;t interest you, then it&#x27;s valid not to comment. It&#x27;s preferable to have most submissions die quietly than to encourage mediocre conversation and fruitless engagement.
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