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Germany starts dismantling wind farm to make room for coal mine

43 点作者 g42gregory超过 1 年前

6 条评论

atoav超过 1 年前
Certainly a singular instance Germany in 2023 installed 1GW (correction: this figure was for solar, not wind) of wind power per month. Coincidentally that is roughly the yield a single nuclear powerplant would give, only that the construction of these typically take a decade, not a month. And they cost more to build and operate.<p>And before someone says: &quot;But what about storage, they won&#x27;t give you power when you need it!&quot; — this is a problem that can be solved with engineering, unlike the peoblem of the 10.000 year storage of decaying nuclear waste, which becomes a problem of epochal societal scale. When was the last time you had one society last for that long? How would you even calculate the cost of that? Proponents of nuclear power never price this into the energy production (somehow this is something the state has to pay for some reason? But who knows whether a state exists in 5000 years?) and always handwave away the practical problems involved with storing this in densely populated areas for a time span so long it would put us back to the dawn of humankind. Reprocessing exists, sure, but that is only a fraction of the waste.
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_ph_超过 1 年前
Most Germans are horrified by this. But this has neither to do with the phase-out of nuclear reactors nor by the state of the energy supply in Germany in 2023. When Russia cut off the gas supply to Germany, there were of course a few concerns, but fortunately, Germany quickly managed to replace the Russian gas via the international markets. On top of that, since the change of the government in late 21, the ramp up of renewables has greatly accellerated again. As a consequence, despite taking the last 4 nuclear plants off the grid, coal usage in Germany is down considerably.<p>The current plan is to ramp down coal till 2030 which also puts an end to mining. Still, mining some more coal is profitable for the power companies and they are pushing to mine most of the coal which was approved for mining earlier on. But there is still considerable pressure to limit mining more.
Symbiote超过 1 年前
Is this the wind farm, in which case it&#x27;s only 8 years old?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rwe.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;the-group&#x2F;countries-and-locations&#x2F;koenigshovener-hoehe-onshore-wind-farm&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.rwe.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;the-group&#x2F;countries-and-locations&#x2F;koe...</a>
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28304283409234超过 1 年前
&gt; A wind farm in Germany is being dismantled to make room for the expansion of a lignite coal mine, angering climate activists.<p>I am not an activist but it angers me. What is this for weird framing? It is infuriating, regardless of wether one is an activist.
leobg超过 1 年前
Somebody please build an AI app that tracks the mentioning of countries in HN stories, and maps them to sentiments. I would be so interested in learning which country will rank number one in being laughable.
bamboozled超过 1 年前
Idiots