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Bird, once valued at $2.5B, just filed for bankruptcy

55 点作者 swinnipeg超过 1 年前

15 条评论

rchaud超过 1 年前
Not a single word about revenue or profits, just about how much it was 'valued' at. A lot of VC money is just holding up Potemkin villages of 'innovation'.
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hiatus超过 1 年前
Similar article on the same subject also discussed previously, here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38706781">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38706781</a>
josefresco超过 1 年前
&gt; The global shutdown of major cities in the Covid pandemic hit the scooter startup hard, forcing it to pull all of its scooters from US and European markets<p>Why did something like COVID effect the use and &quot;contactless&quot; rental of scooters? Was this just collateral damage or did specific changes on laws&#x2F;regulations cause the pull out?
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diogenescynic超过 1 年前
Good riddance, they&#x27;ve made cities worse and more dangerous. Can&#x27;t tell you how many times some idiot on a Bird scooter going down a sidewalk has almost hit me or my kids. I&#x27;ve also seen several wipeout when going over track tracks.
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adhesive_wombat超过 1 年前
It&#x27;s wild to me how these things get these valuations. It&#x27;s just a scooter and an app. There&#x27;s demonstrably barely any technical moat here. The only possible way to stay afloat at that kind of value long term is if your scooters are somehow substantially better and your competitors can&#x27;t <i>ever</i> catch up, you managed to freeze out everyone else though aggressive lobbying, or you manage to somehow be the only socially acceptable option to some group of fashion victims who care what colour paint their tech company uses.<p>Plus you&#x27;ve weighed yourself down with thousands of just about the fastest-depreciating device you can physically make.
zwieback超过 1 年前
How is the scooter rental market in general? In Portland I pretty much just see Lime now and maybe one out ten is being used, others are parked at the top of steep hills.
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ilrwbwrkhv超过 1 年前
Did the founder and initial investors make money? This article says they didn&#x27;t but usually that is the only real goal and rest is all a story sold to the next dummy. He does have properties in the 20 millions in Miami though.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.crunchbase.com&#x2F;real-estate-property-tech&#x2F;bird-founder-miami-mansion-travis-vanderzanden&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.crunchbase.com&#x2F;real-estate-property-tech&#x2F;bird-f...</a>
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osierjtilsja超过 1 年前
Hah. The last time I saw Bird in the news was when they were throwing a tantrum and leaving SF because &quot;strangling government regulations&quot; were ruining their business. Someone in SF city government pointed out that all their competitors were making record profits and said Bird was run by spoiled rich kids with very bad business sense. Goodbye Bird. I lived in Austin when you rolled out your terrible service there and I won&#x27;t miss you at all.
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syndicatedjelly超过 1 年前
How do you go bankrupt as a company renting powered scooters, which are possibly the cheapest possible mode of transportation just above a Craigslist bike? Incredible
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wgjordan超过 1 年前
Related:<p><i>Scooter startup Bird is seeking a $2B valuation</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=17293571">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=17293571</a> - June 2018 (269 comments)<p><i>Bird has raised $100M for electric scooter sharing</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16555913">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=16555913</a> - March 2018 (146 comments)
easton超过 1 年前
Didn&#x27;t they just buy Spin?
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kangaroozach超过 1 年前
This was inevitability was obivous to me when I realized that<p>A) It cost like $5-$10 to go just a short distance.<p>B) Any regular commuter could just buy their own scooter for basically the cost of a bicycle.<p>The economics just didn’t make sense.
KyleBerezin超过 1 年前
Sometimes, the candle that burns brightest is actually just a dumpster that is on fire.
mistrial9超过 1 年前
maybe rental scooters at scale with tracking are not really a great market innovation?
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slibhb超过 1 年前
The birds in my area are falling apart so I&#x27;m not shocked to hear the company is doing poorly. I&#x27;ll be sad if renting scooters is no longer an option.<p>If I was designing a city, I&#x27;d ban cars except for a few prominent roads and make rentable electric vehicles the norm. You&#x27;d gain a ton of real estate by not needing parking spaces&#x2F;garages. Plus cars are a slow way to get around cities due to traffic and lights&#x2F;stop signs every block.