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Stop Worrying About Deepfakes

27 点作者 dnetesn超过 1 年前

18 条评论

xnx超过 1 年前
&gt; There was huge concern right away that you’d have videos appear in a political context that could change the course of an election or lead to political violence. But none of that has transpired.<p>Citation needed for this. Margin for victories has been so small in recent victories that it is very plausible that enough voters have been influenced by fake news accompanied by fabricated&#x2F;deepfaked images to change outcomes.
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beej71超过 1 年前
This is an interesting take given that deepfake images are being used right now for propaganda in the Israel&#x2F;Hamas conflict.<p>Videos are three-sense. People believe that stuff far more easily than they believe something they read.<p>And couple it with the fact that people <i>want</i> to believe the propaganda and you have a massive political lever.<p>So I&#x27;m only not worried insofar as I&#x27;m not worried that politicians and superPACs will not utilize a massive political lever.
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ks2048超过 1 年前
Others have pointed this out but it’s possible (or likely) that the biggest harm is just the diluting of the truth so no one believes anything.<p>When someone sees or hears something they don’t want to see or hear (against their political outlook), they will now have plausible deniability that it’s just bogus evidence and will dismiss it.
pityJuke超过 1 年前
From a skim: while I agree with surface level details about deepfakes (i.e. they&#x27;re mostly used for funny memes, humans are mostly capable of detecting them), I am still slightly perturbed by people using it to generate NSFW porn of people (particularly underaged ones) without their consent [0].<p>Very much a &quot;four horsemen of infopocalypse&quot; statement, that&#x27;ll I&#x27;ll concede.<p>[0]: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;english.elpais.com&#x2F;international&#x2F;2023-09-18&#x2F;in-spain-dozens-of-girls-are-reporting-ai-generated-nude-photos-of-them-being-circulated-at-school-my-heart-skipped-a-beat.html" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;english.elpais.com&#x2F;international&#x2F;2023-09-18&#x2F;in-spain...</a>
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matteoraso超过 1 年前
&gt; There was huge concern right away that you’d have videos appear in a political context that could change the course of an election or lead to political violence. But none of that has transpired.<p>This is wildly wrong.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20190415011409&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washingtonpost.com&#x2F;nation&#x2F;2019&#x2F;01&#x2F;11&#x2F;seattle-tv-station-aired-doctored-footage-trumps-oval-office-speech-employee-has-been-fired&#x2F;?utm_term=.77705fa81c8a" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20190415011409&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.washi...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.foxnews.com&#x2F;politics&#x2F;twitter-erupts-trump-trolls-desantis-ai-generated-video-2024-announcement" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.foxnews.com&#x2F;politics&#x2F;twitter-erupts-trump-trolls...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.politifact.com&#x2F;factchecks&#x2F;2023&#x2F;may&#x2F;05&#x2F;facebook-posts&#x2F;kamala-harris-wasnt-slurring-about-today-yesterday&#x2F;" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.politifact.com&#x2F;factchecks&#x2F;2023&#x2F;may&#x2F;05&#x2F;facebook-p...</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theconversation.com&#x2F;faked-videos-shore-up-false-beliefs-about-bidens-mental-health-145975" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;theconversation.com&#x2F;faked-videos-shore-up-false-beli...</a>
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sickofparadox超过 1 年前
&gt;&quot;There was huge concern right away that you’d have videos appear in a political context that could change the course of an election or lead to political violence. But none of that has transpired.&quot;<p>This kind of &quot;it hasn&#x27;t happened yet so it won&#x27;t&quot; dismissal of the ever-closer ability to create a perfect fake video of X person saying this or that is so myopic I feel like it doesn&#x27;t even deserve elaboration as to why it is wrong, we should skip straight to mockery and derision. We&#x27;ve already had multiple cases of fake Biden and fake Trump videos posted to the internet with hundreds of thousands of views before any kind of clarification came to indicate they were fake.[1] 2024 will put this to the test, and I have little confidence that this will remain the case.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;62338593" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.bbc.com&#x2F;news&#x2F;62338593</a>
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xg15超过 1 年前
It&#x27;s also worth noting that there far stupider methods that can (right now) generate much more convincing images than deepfakes. The simplest is taking an existing, real picture and taking it out of context, lying about what the image shows, etc. This is actively being done in current conflicts, e.g. taking real footage from the Syrian civil war or from previous wars in Gaza and presenting them as photos from the current war. It works so well because there <i>are</i> enough absolutely horrible photos from the current war, so the fake photo appears plausible.<p>If AI-generated imagery should ever reach the level of being completely artefact-free and absolutely indistinguishable from real photos, then deepfakes will be <i>about on par</i> with the propaganda effect of today&#x27;s real photos.
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wfh超过 1 年前
I don&#x27;t think this article will age well.
sandworm101超过 1 年前
Read history. This has come up countless times. The world did not collapse. Some deepfakery has even been addressed by US courts (Hustler v. Falwell, a literary deepfake). There was the war of the world fiasco, a radio deepfake. Before that people panicked over the ability to edit photographic plates, combining images to make people appear&#x2F;disappear. Society did not crumble. New technology comes along. People fear that it can be used to create fake news. Then, a few years later, everyone chuckles about it. A few years from now we will have adapted to the current latest deepfake tech and will also chuckle about the panic.
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gustavus超过 1 年前
Rules of the internet<p>1. Don&#x27;t believe anything you see or read on the internet.<p>2. Don&#x27;t post any personally identifiable information about yourself on the internet.<p>3. Every woman is a man, every teenager is an FBI agent, and every man is a dog.<p>Every single problem or controversy surrounding the internet derives from breaking one of these three rules. If we just started teaching kids these again we wouldn&#x27;t have the problems that we do.
cassianoleal超过 1 年前
Sure, in a Dr. Strangelove kind of sense.
hiAndrewQuinn超过 1 年前
The true reason to not worry about deepfakes is that both sides of any conflict will learn to use them equally viciously. Like always, the only way out is to take a step back, study things objectively through the lens of economics, and figure out the tradeoffs inherent to the choice.<p>See also: Michael Huemer&#x27;s &quot;In Praise of Passivity&quot;, <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fakenous.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;in-praise-of-passivity" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;fakenous.substack.com&#x2F;p&#x2F;in-praise-of-passivity</a> .
macawfish超过 1 年前
Both candidates in the recent Argentine presidential election used generative AI:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;readyai-org&#x2F;the-dawn-of-a-new-era-artificial-intelligence-takes-charge-in-landmark-election-9cc852530610" rel="nofollow noreferrer">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;medium.com&#x2F;readyai-org&#x2F;the-dawn-of-a-new-era-artific...</a>
divan超过 1 年前
Two last words from the title could be omitted :)
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NegativeK超过 1 年前
This feels like an instance of someone else attaching an unfortunate title to an article that&#x27;s more interesting and nuanced.
Yizahi超过 1 年前
Stop worrying about deepfakes, as in &quot;we can&#x27;t do anything about them and have to resign to have unrealiable media evidence from now and till forever.&quot;. Don&#x27;t worry about that, right?<p>Also this professor&#x27;s methodology is laughable. He is surveying popular deepfakes on the popular sites. OF COURSE they will be jokes. Who will share and view a million times a deepfake of some CCTV with a face of some robber substituted for some other equally unknown guy. Or a deepfake of a car crash with car plates swapped for different ones. Etc.<p>&quot;We were worried that they will affect elections or politicians, but none of that has transpired.&quot; Says who? Who did this research? How was this determined? By a gut feeling while watching deepfake memes? Thought so.
robertlagrant超过 1 年前
I&#x27;ll bet someone right now is making a deepfake video of this professor saying something horrendous, and circulating it.
Solvency超过 1 年前
Uh no thanks I&#x27;ll remain rightfully and objectively terrified by them into the foreseeable future.