> It's a common theme when we scientific Python users talk that we don't
really use Python for the <i>language</i>. We use it for the community and
the libraries.<p>This statement doesn't make sense to me. First, I use Python for scientific/numerical work, and I definitely use it "for the language" - at least, certain aspects of it that are rare elsewhere.<p>Second, the language, community, and libraries are all interdependent. The design of a language <i>strongly</i> influences the tone of its community, as well as the libraries available (both the number and the types).