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Korea to welcome 'digital nomads' with new visa starting Jan. 1

227 点作者 yladiz超过 1 年前

21 条评论

ryzvonusef超过 1 年前
<p><pre><code> &gt; The visa requires applicants to have an annual income double the amount of Korea&#x27;s gross national income (GNI) per capita for the previous year. &gt; Korea&#x27;s GNI per capita was 42.48 million won ($33,000) as of 2022, requiring those applying for the visa to have an annual income of 84.96 million won. </code></pre> Today&#x27;s google forex rate:<p><pre><code> 84,960,000 South Korean Won = 65,487.17 US Dollar</code></pre>
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rayiner超过 1 年前
&gt; We hope the workcation visa will allow high-earning foreigners to stay in Korea&#x27;s various regions and vitalize the local economy,&quot; the Justice Ministry said in a statement. &quot;We hope the visa will be an opportunity for us to showcase our country and our culture.<p>I love the forthrightness. “Come here, spend your money, then leave.”
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cddotdotslash超过 1 年前
In my experience, while these kinds of visas address personal tax liability, many US-based companies are still unlikely to allow W2 employees to participate due to (very real) tax, jurisdiction, and legal concerns (if a W2 employee is working in France, for example, are they required to comply with laws preventing employers from contacting employees on weekends? Maybe not, but even “fully remote” companies are unlikely to want to spend time figuring it out for one employee).<p>I think countries who want these programs to take off for employees who aren’t contractors need to invest in messaging and legal support for employers as well.
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prepend超过 1 年前
This seems like a good idea and hopefully becomes more common in other countries.<p>The requirement to work for a foreign company and have an income double the average seems to allay the complaint of taking local jobs and consuming local social services.
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lo_zamoyski超过 1 年前
They&#x27;re in the death grip of consumerism, it seems. Consumerism is highly correlated with demographic decline. It shifts the perceived &quot;center of gravity&quot; of value toward the materialistic. Having children is sort of a net loss in the materialist calculus. Imagine a family with 5 children that owns a Honda Odyssey and lives in a modest house, and now imagine a family, with the same upper middle class net income, that voluntarily choose to have at most a single child, but lives in a sleeker house and owns a Maserati and a Porsche. Which looks more attractive to someone steeped in consumerism? Which generates more social approval today? Which is going to appeal more to the careerist? Which is going to look more like Success™?<p>It&#x27;s obvious. Large families are no longer imagined as a joyful thing, life affirming, a source of meaning, an honor, and the true wealth of a family in the eyes most. No, large families are for poor people who are too stupid to use contraception, an impediment to consuming shit, because everyone knows that consumption is true happiness.<p>So it sounds like Korea may be trying to overcome occurring or forecasted economic decline resulting from the worst fertility rate in the world <i>and</i> without mass immigration and having their culture threatened as a result. But barring a miracle, they&#x27;re just buying time before their inevitable collapse. I dare say it is virtually impossible for a society to turn away from the religion of consumption once it has captured and corrupted a society. The only way out seems to be through the inevitable collapse, as that is the only way the spell is broken. This is tragic.
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tiimbz超过 1 年前
From the Q&amp;A [0]:<p>&gt;&gt; Can I work with the digital nomad visa?<p>&gt;&gt; No. Travelers visiting under the visa cannot be hired or involved in any profit-making activity during their stay.<p>Isn’t the point of a digital nomad that you are able to work from anywhere?<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.digitalnomadskorea.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;everything-you-need-to-know-about-koreas-digital-nomad-visa" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.digitalnomadskorea.com&#x2F;post&#x2F;everything-you-need-...</a>
doix超过 1 年前
A lot of people are complaining about the income requirements. But it seems fair enough that they are trying to attract people that will spend a lot of money and this contribute more to their economy.<p>They aren&#x27;t trying to attract people that will live off ramen for a year.<p>My biggest complaint is the application process:<p>&gt; Those who wish to obtain the visa can apply via Korean embassies in their respective country.<p>I don&#x27;t want to go back to my home country and sit there while I wait for my visa to go through! I&#x27;m already in Asia, flying back and forth to the UK to get this visa is a pain. It should be an online application process. I feel like they haven&#x27;t really thought this through.
ninja3925超过 1 年前
The big unknown are the tax implication? The article should clarify what it means, at least vis a vis Korean tax agency.
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paxys超过 1 年前
If I go ask my employer today if I can work out of South Korea for a year the immediate response from HR&#x2F;legal will be &quot;no way&quot;. I&#x27;m sure the same applies to the vast, vast majority of the world&#x27;s population. None of these visas are worth a damn unless all these countries can also sort out the million employment law and taxation issues that will arise from such an arrangement.
unicornmama超过 1 年前
Very surprising. Does Korean culture generally welcome foreigners? Can anyone living in Korea comment on this?
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injeolmi_love超过 1 年前
Just keep in mind that the financial system is very locked down in South Korea. Foreigners have very limited access to Korean bank accounts while crypto exchange accounts are completely banned even for permanent residents.
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a_vanderbilt超过 1 年前
I&#x27;m hoping Japan creates a similar program. Making the move would be much easier if I can do so gradually by living there first.
karol超过 1 年前
Great news, anybody knows what kind of taxes you need to pay over there?
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cbhl超过 1 年前
Folks looking at this may also be interested in similar visa programs offered in east&#x2F;southeast asia for context: Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Taiwan.<p>Singapore&#x27;s requirements strike me as especially conservative in comparison (five years leading a co with $30M raised, and that&#x27;s just one of the &quot;two of three&quot; reqs).<p>I&#x27;d also look at the local tech ecosystem before applying -- Twitch is shutting down in South Korea in 2024 due to sender-pays &quot;network usage fees&quot; in the local Telecommunications Business Act. Also there&#x27;s legacy technology (esp for online banking) that depends on Internet Explorer and ActiveX due to a home-grown encryption standard built in response to US Export Controls limiting 1990s browsers to 40-bit RC2&#x2F;RC4, so Windows is still the predominant desktop operating system there.
plz-remove-card超过 1 年前
Anyone know where the details of this visa are located or what the official name of the visa is? The article didn&#x27;t mention it&#x27;s sources or have any links.<p>The website for the embassy nearest to me just linked to here but I&#x27;m not seeing it: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.visa.go.kr&#x2F;main&#x2F;openMain.do" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.visa.go.kr&#x2F;main&#x2F;openMain.do</a><p>There&#x27;s mention of a &quot;Working Holiday&quot; visa here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;whic.mofa.go.kr&#x2F;contents.do?menuNo=90&amp;contentsNo=38" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;whic.mofa.go.kr&#x2F;contents.do?menuNo=90&amp;contentsNo=38</a><p>But it appears to be for working part-time in Korea, not as a digital nomad.
ZoomZoomZoom超过 1 年前
Can we please start calling this kind of visas for what it is?<p>Rich people visas are cool, but don&#x27;t help actual nomads as simply everywhere they exist they put up a prohibitively high threshold on an income (that you can&#x27;t even prove documentary half the time).
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pinewurst超过 1 年前
How about a North Korean equivalent for those of us making lower salaries? They could call it the “Kim Possible” Visa!
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gumballindie超过 1 年前
The only incentive they need to give is tax breaks. There&#x27;s no mentioning of it in the article. Taxation being draconian in countries such as the UK, it would attract plenty of talent.
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jdjdjdkdksmdnd超过 1 年前
im so sad ireland shut down their golden visa program. im looking forward to building a portfolio of passports so i dont have to deal with the shit head border agents anymore.
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thecleaner超过 1 年前
Knowing the racism in Korea, no thank you.
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k4rli超过 1 年前
Incredible that countries still haven&#x27;t learned that American-salary digital nomads are only harmful to local people. Airbnb all the apartments so locals can&#x27;t afford in cities anymore.<p>While I do enjoy my EU salary nomading within EU, those with &gt;5x local salaries have pretty much ruined Lisbon and Porto.
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