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They're Paid Billions to Root Out Child Labor in the U.S. Why Do They Fail?

48 点作者 safaa1993超过 1 年前

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gnicholas超过 1 年前
When I searched the article for “billion”, I saw only two occurrences in the article (plus one in the headline). The impression I got is that there is a multi-billion dollar worldwide compliance industry, which does multiple things, including check for child labor.<p>But I wasn’t remotely convinced that this industry is paid billions to root out child labor in the US. Was there evidence provided that indicates this?
Animats超过 1 年前
Well, that totally trashes UL&#x27;s reputation. They used to be Underwriters Laboratories, a nonprofit owned by insurance companies, and had a good reputation. Their only product was neutral safety evaluations.<p>Then, in 2012, they &quot;reorganized&quot; and became a for-profit organization. In 2022, they reorganized again. Their century-old reputation is now toast.<p>[1] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;UL_(safety_organization)" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;UL_(safety_organization)</a>
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citizenpaul超过 1 年前
Same as always<p>- They tell them weeks in advance they will be making an inspection<p>- The inspectors only work banker hours.<p>- Inspectors are low paid government workers making them susceptible to bribes and various other pay to play manipulation.<p>- No one really cares about the violations, its just about checking off lists to say it was done.<p>- Status quo is what matters.<p>- Even when inspectors find something they often ignore it unless its truly egregious because it will cause more work for the inspector then ignoring it.<p>- Inspectors,even true believers in the cause are eventually worn down by the bureaucracy and push back from powerful people to keep status quo.
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kristjank超过 1 年前
I opened the article wondering why, then the first line said &quot;Private auditors&quot;, and then it was pretty clear to me. Why would you ever rely on auditors paid with private sector profit to care for basic human rights? Especially when paid for by a huge corporation?<p>The answer must lie in strengthening the Labor department, but that&#x27;s a whole another problem I imagine.
kthejoker2超过 1 年前
It&#x27;s laid out pretty clearly in the article why:<p>&gt; the suppliers ... arrange and pay for the audits.<p>&gt; After Mr. Callington failed three Walgreens suppliers ... the chain complained<p>&gt; the supplier objected to his finding 21 violations when the previous audit had found none.<p>Who&#x27;s paying for what.<p>Big vendor wants a shiny &quot;responsibly sourced&quot; badge.<p>Supplier wants a rubber stamp.<p>The real question is why bother with the actual audits?
ram4jesus超过 1 年前
Child Labor, like illegal immigration, like having a narco state on its borders, like endless wars, like keeping opium production at record levels during its unjust, cruel, and senseless occupation of Afghanistan, benefits the US elites.<p>It does not benefit you or I, plebes, but the holy few that are chasing profits at all costs while crushing everyone else.<p>The US has a history of doing highly illegal stuff for profits and the unwashed masses be damned.<p>This is just a lame attempt at saying that there&#x27;s a problem and it&#x27;s being addressed. It&#x27;s like if you know your neighbor is very hungry and instead of inviting them for diner or giving them a nice meal, you give them a crinkled dollar.
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nonrandomstring超过 1 年前
But we still keep buying the products of misery and exploitation. I guess the smartphone users who saw Foxconn put up &quot;anti-suicide&quot; nets and carried on shopping as usual don&#x27;t really care that much?
Amezarak超过 1 年前
Well, the main answers in the article seem to be:<p>- migrant children show up and work and just lie about their age or supply forged documentation, which is impossible to verify for the company or any US agency.<p>- not enough government inspectors, and not enough latitude during inspections for private inspectors; e.g., having to request permission to show up on second shift.<p>(2) is easy to solve with money, but I have no idea what anyone could be expected to do about (1), unless you decide to aggressively prosecute companies relying on migrant workers, which is politically untenable for both parties.
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thedigitalone超过 1 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ghostarchive.org&#x2F;archive&#x2F;cK5GE" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ghostarchive.org&#x2F;archive&#x2F;cK5GE</a>
neonate超过 1 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20231229014350&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytimes.com&#x2F;2023&#x2F;12&#x2F;28&#x2F;us&#x2F;migrant-child-labor-audits.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20231229014350&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.nytim...</a>
vfclists超过 1 年前
Isn&#x27;t cheaper labor the main reason for migrant workers?<p>Are you also sure that some of those child laborers are not eager to work?<p>For some of the older ones going through the hassle of migration only to depend on state handouts may not be good enough and the probably need to send some earnings to their families.
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kelseyfrog超过 1 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;8kzV6" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;8kzV6</a>
geodel超过 1 年前
But that would also root out their own labor which they might not be inclined to do.
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