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The NYT Lawsuit Against OpenAI Would Open Up the Times to All Sorts of Lawsuits

9 点作者 vishnumenon超过 1 年前

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jethronethro超过 1 年前
&gt; Let me let you in on a little secret: if you think that generative AI can do serious journalism better than a massive organization with a huge number of reporters, then, um, you deserve to go out of business.<p>Does this also apply to a smaller organization like TechDirt?
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DemocracyFTW2超过 1 年前
&gt; As the lawsuit makes clear, this isn’t some high and mighty fight for journalism. It’s a negotiating ploy<p>This I find disingenuous. If I bake a bread and you take it without asking, it&#x27;s my turn to state what I want: maybe I don&#x27;t care, maybe I just want you don&#x27;t do it again, maybe I want you to give it back, maybe I want you to pay, and maybe I want you to pay for the bread plus an extra for my troubles. In a world where almost everything is arbitrated by money it&#x27;s not extraordinary to demand a monetary compensation for the efforts that it takes to write a newspaper article, and we&#x27;re not even talking about the quality or even the veracity of said articles; the New York Times makes it quite clear that they don&#x27;t put their texts out there for grabs, and some data trawler decided those texts were good enough for their nets.<p>I&#x27;m not even saying that whoever trawled the data must pay dollars; I&#x27;m not the judge. I just say that techdirt&#x27;s author uses are very strange point of view here.<p>&gt; if you think that generative AI can do serious journalism better than a massive organization with a huge number of reporters, then, um, you deserve to go out of business.<p>This is so besides the point<p>&gt; It’s a false belief that reading something (whether by human or machine) somehow implicates copyright. This is false.<p>Well somewhere between &quot;I accidentally saw your headlines while waiting for the bus&quot; and (probably both of) (1) &quot;I reprinted millions of your articles without asking you&quot; or (2) &quot;I downloaded millions of your articles and processed them in order to further my business&quot; one can <i>guess</i> there will be judges who do draw a line beyond which copyright law does come in.
WarOnPrivacy超过 1 年前
<i>There are five or six whole pages of puffery about how amazing the NY Times thinks the NY Times is</i>, <i>followed by the laughably stupid claim that generative AI &quot;threatens&quot; the kind of journalism the NY Times produces.</i><p><i>Let me let you in on a little secret: if you think that generative AI can do serious journalism better than a massive organization with a huge number of reporters, then, um, you deserve to go out of business.</i><p><i>For all the puffery about the amazing work of the NY Times, this seems to suggest that it can easily be replaced by an auto-complete machine.</i><p>I&#x27;ve no disdain for the NYT but they can be absolutely wrongheaded sometimes - particularly when it involves technology. This last bit is certainly not limited to the NYT (and inc much of tech press).<p>From Section 230 to copyright to surveillance to social media to whatever nonsense is claimed by FBI directors - it seems like the staff&#x27;s reasoning gets paid time off whenever tech is on the table.
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