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"Tech Billionaires Need to Stop Making Sci-Fi Real"

46 点作者 tontonius超过 1 年前

21 条评论

sjfjsjdjwvwvc超过 1 年前
We need stories to be able to imagine and build the future.<p>I empathise with the author but he doesn’t really offer an alternative
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morninglight超过 1 年前
Scientific American needs to look in a mirror.<p>There was a time when they gave meaningful direction to young readers.<p>Albert G. Ingalls, &quot;The Back Yard Astronomer.&quot; Martin Gardner, &quot;Mathematical Games&quot; C. L. Stong. &quot;The Amateur Scientist&quot;<p>After Stongs death, SciAm displayed a halfhearted attempt to keep a few back pages, but around 2000 they dumped the whole idea of citizen science.<p>Despite the launch of a nationwide &quot;Maker Movement&quot; SciAm&#x27;s new management couldn&#x27;t understand why anyone would care. Today, the publication has made itself irrelevant.<p>This generation has found a new outlet for DIY science and it is called YouTube. Maybe you should check it out. You might learn something.<p>.
aatd86超过 1 年前
<i>Seen iRobot once...</i> tries to make self-driving cars and underground tunnels :o)<p>I still want to see what is on the other end of the galaxy though. Requires more lifespan and faster than light&#x2F;instantaneous data transmission. So some entangled particles stored in space relay expansions?
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nvm0n2超过 1 年前
If the people inspired by sci-fi have a &quot;dangerous political outlook&quot; then what does that say about the people who write it, like the author Charles Stross?<p>Stross greatly over-estimates how much influence sci-fi has. I&#x27;ve been in the tech world my whole career and have encountered plenty of sci-fi references in that time. It never went beyond cute codenames for projects. In particular, I&#x27;ve never encountered a project that could be traced back to someone saying, &quot;hey that sci-fi story had this cool thing in it, how do we make that?&quot;. It just doesn&#x27;t happen.<p>The boring reality is that new tech or even long term research visions tend to be extrapolations of what already works, occasionally disrupted by an accidental breakthrough. ChatGPT didn&#x27;t get invented because researchers watched Star Trek and then sat in a brainstorming session wondering how to make it. It came out of a decade long research programme in which many different directions were explored to see what could be done with GPU powered neural nets. When we finally did get AI that talks like Cmdr Data, it was almost accidental and the next year was spent figuring out what exactly had been built.<p>Similarly, the idea that colonizing Mars or living in space wouldn&#x27;t have occurred to anyone except for sci-fi is just daft. These ideas are extremely obvious. Musk isn&#x27;t inspired by sci-fi; he&#x27;s explained many times that what drives him is the idea that humanity should be multi-planetary as a risk reduction measure. Peter Thiel wants to extend life because living forever has been a dream since before the start of writing. Why should we give sci-fi authors any credit for these common visions?
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swayvil超过 1 年前
Powerful people with poor taste is our primary problem. Lots of power but lacking the perception to use it properly.<p>These wealthy unperceptive persons are perfect candidates for VR heaven. Being unperceptive they see no problem with that.<p>Then, safely sequestered in their trillion-dollar VR coffins like a crazy uncle locked in a cellar, us poor people will be free to get some work done.
1vuio0pswjnm7超过 1 年前
Take away endless supply of free money, unplug their computers from the network and these folks are all but useless.
rcbdev超过 1 年前
I once came across the take that the shift in popular sci-fi from utopian to dystopian lead to a generation of wealth that has been shaped by these stories.<p>The logic is that if you have lots of popular fiction describing the future a certain way, these ideas will influence the future to become that way to an extent.
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ganzuul超过 1 年前
Making plans for the future is incredibly hard. People are not naturally cooperative so actually affecting positive change is always met with illogical resistance. This creates an environment which punishes any attempt to rationally discuss plans which are actually going ahead. The Saudi line city makes the dynamic obvious to anyone, without taking a stand on the merits of the project.<p>It&#x27;s the strawman and steelman argument on a societal scale.<p>We also have a lot of skeletons in the closet. In some cases the tech is just exposing an underlying problem and not introducing anything new. Good tech also enables society do something about its foundation of sand.
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defrost超过 1 年前
<i>Tech Billionaires Need to Stop Trying to Make the SciFi They Grew Up on Real</i><p>18 points by cratermoon 9 days ago | flag | hide | past | favorite | 19 comments<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38712101">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38712101</a>
anonzzzies超过 1 年前
Seems billionaires are obsessed with both sci-fi and the middle ages, they want to fly to mars and also they want to have a wild-west era free lawless everything <i>for them</i> with no to little rights for others and having them as slaves.
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indigo0086超过 1 年前
Peak FUD. Tech writers need to actually make something, even scifi, instead of baiting their readership into being unprincipled pseudo-luddites.
coliveira超过 1 年前
This is another evidence that democracy is not possible with the existence of tech billionaires. These robber barons will continue to exercise power to mold the world into their own desires, it doesn&#x27;t matter what the people really want. Democracy, a concept that the West pays lip service to, cannot survive in a world dominated by multi billionaires. They need to be completely destroyed (as billionaires not as people) for democracy to survive - a concept that Americans from 100 years ago understood.
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stranded22超过 1 年前
Yup - I feel this.<p>They were warnings - but tech bros with no imagination and lots of money think it was a prediction.
bhaak超过 1 年前
It&#x27;s curious that so many tech billionaires are the type that don&#x27;t recognize that Starship Troopers is supposed to be a satirical depiction of a dystopia and that&#x27;s why they poorly choose which SF to make real.
cpr超过 1 年前
This article ignores the fact that three-letter-agencies are behind many of these tech moguls&#x27; &quot;successes&quot;, and they&#x27;re in fact being used for total surveillance by the intel community.<p>I.e., while the tech moguls may dream these SF visions, they&#x27;re really just a front for dark forces.
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baz00超过 1 年前
I don&#x27;t mind if they make sci-fi real, but can they please fuck off with the dystopian ultra-capitalist cyberpunk sci-fi.
snitch182超过 1 年前
Its paywalled
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percentcer超过 1 年前
Actual title is &quot;Tech Billionaires Need to Stop Trying to Make the Science Fiction They Grew Up on Real&quot;
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unusualmonkey超过 1 年前
So many words... so little actually said.<p>Sci-fi is inspirational, especially for people who use STEM to change the world. However, contrary to this opinion, this isn&#x27;t inherently negative or bad.
vcg3rd超过 1 年前
&quot;In the beginning was the Word,&quot; everything else is plagiarism. Humans are not original--even our mythological creatures are amalgamations--because we can&#x27;t create without a frame-of-reference which exists prior (creation) to us and is collectively shaped (society, culture, education, mentors, etc.)<p>Humans, not capable of true originality, are either innovative or derivative. For all the talk of these tech billionaires as geniuses I only see derivatives with tons of money behind it.<p>They lack both a healthy, wise, and deep-rooted frame-of-reference and the ability to imaginatively innovate within it.
swayvil超过 1 年前
The best government is a kind dictator.<p>The best dictator is an immortal, brainlinked hivemind.<p>Therefore scifi inspired tech will save us.