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20 years later, the Y2K bug seems like a joke–because some took it seriously (2019)

49 点作者 Timothee超过 1 年前

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xunil2ycom超过 1 年前
This still vexes me greatly. Some young people (I'm old... everyone seems young) think it was all very silly in retrospect. When I have the time, I will explain to them just how serious it really was, media reports notwithstanding, and that the only reason things didn't go very badly was the work of a great cadre of programmers working hard to make sure bad things did not happen.
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sweettea超过 1 年前
One actual effect of Y2K I learned about only yesterday: the NHS gave false Down syndrome risk assessments to 154 women: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;uk&#x2F;2001&#x2F;sep&#x2F;14&#x2F;martinwainwright" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;uk&#x2F;2001&#x2F;sep&#x2F;14&#x2F;martinwainwright</a>
manwithaplan超过 1 年前
Many Y2K “solutions” just borrowed 20 years, and a few of those systems didnʼt actually invest that time in a fix before the 1st of January 2020:<p><pre><code> One solution involved a technique called “windowing” — in which two-digit years are assigned to either one century or another based on one hard-coded “pivot year” determining where they belong. Even back in 1999, HPCWire was describing it as “highly controversial,” citing one expert who said computers using the technique were “little ticking time bombs waiting to go off.” </code></pre> <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thenewstack.io&#x2F;how-the-y2k-bug-returned-on-jan-1-2020&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;thenewstack.io&#x2F;how-the-y2k-bug-returned-on-jan-1-202...</a>
thebruce87m超过 1 年前
“When you do things right, people won&#x27;t be sure you&#x27;ve done anything at all.” - This is the case with things like pandemic responses too.
dreamcompiler超过 1 年前
I led the team that investigated Y2K issues for some <i>very</i> consequential systems.<p>You&#x27;ll recall that no cities were destroyed by accidental blinding white flashes on January 1, 2000. We made sure in advance that that wasn&#x27;t going to happen.<p>You&#x27;re welcome.
Turing_Machine超过 1 年前
Yeah, personally I was pretty worried around 1997 or so, because no one seemed to be taking it seriously enough.<p>By the time 2000 rolled around, I had a good confidence level that all the important stuff had been fixed.
alisonatwork超过 1 年前
The place where I worked at the time was already all UNIX&#x2F;Linux so our Y2K was 2038. We just needed to adjust a few printed reports and client-side birth date heuristics to make everything work fine.<p>Until February 29, 2000. Then several of our customers&#x27; systems messed up. I seem to recall it was a problem with SCO OpenServer and that our Red Hat customers didn&#x27;t have any issues, but I might be misremembering. Either way, for whatever reason the leap year was not recognized on one of the system or application layers, and that mismatch caused bigger problems than any 1900&#x2F;2000 client-side confusion would&#x27;ve done.
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PeterStuer超过 1 年前
It was not a joke, and systems had to be fixed, but let us also not forget how this was whipped up into a storm far bigger than its cup by IT consultants smelling a feeding frenzy, and a media loving a good tech doom story.
BrandoElFollito超过 1 年前
I rented a small house in the mountains from the power company for the 2000 New Years Eve party. It happened to have an office for the local power employees.<p>At about 22:00 the phone in the office rang up and I took the call (I am not sure why, actually - the phone was ringing so I picked it up).<p>It was an older lady calling and she said &quot;there is no power at home, is this this year 2000 issue already?&quot;.<p>I told her that this is unlikely and have her the correct number to call (written on the office door).<p>It was all over the news and thanks to the heroic work of IT&#x2F;IS the world was saved.
cainxinth超过 1 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Preparedness_paradox" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Preparedness_paradox</a>
clwg超过 1 年前
I got my start in IT focusing on Y2K in the mid-90s. I had no business doing the work I was given at the time, but the greybeards of that era were something else. They mentored me in ways that I could never have gotten in school, it was a different time, pre-google. I was also very appreciative that my young age wasn&#x27;t held against me :)
ChrisArchitect超过 1 年前
(2019)<p>Where does anyone say it seemed like a joke? When the whole article is about the concerned large-scale efforts across the corporate world and beyond.<p>Lame gen z mindset on the title at least, ephemeral disdain for history.
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bogantech超过 1 年前
It didn&#x27;t help that the media was hysterical claiming planes would fall out of the sky and nuclear reactors everywhere would melt down etc.
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masfoobar超过 1 年前
I knew someone who worked on a year 2000 project. I was in school at the time. He started this job around 1997 and believe it officially ended around Aug 2000.<p>He worked for oil and gas sites with relations to big companies like BP etc. He was checking all systems being used - ranging from 2 to 25 years old. maybe more.<p>I was learning C programming at the time so was (barely) able to have a conversation with him. I found it very interesting. If I was a few years older he might have been given a low pay job to get my foot in the door.<p>Not once did he portray this as some kind of &#x27;doom&#x27; like scenario but expressed potential problems if not dealt with - and that was his job. He focused on software used on oil rigs along with oil&#x2F;gas sites.<p>There was a Sega Saturn in the room and used this as an example. Pointing at it, he said there are 3 outcomes to consider. I think there was more to it than that but was making the point to (me) a 14 year old.<p>1) It wont have any problems going into year 2000 and over. 2) The internal clock does not go from 1999 to 2000. Instead, it goes 1999 to 1900. 3) Or - The console stops working entirely when it reaches year 2000.<p>If the outcome was 2) - the console will likely still work fine. Worst case is some games could stop working if using the internal clock. Another example is saved game data being a problem.<p>He didn&#x27;t think the Saturn would have outcome 3) but if it did stop working - it isn&#x27;t the end of the world. A lot of parents will be complaining but thats it. Its just a games console.<p>He then said to think of other computer systems out there. Think about electricity powering your home. Think about your boiler. Think about the london underground or aeroplanes. Think about banks or hospitals. There are computers doing far more important things than the Sega Saturn. A number of these machines could be more than 15 years old. Back then we would be talking about programs originally created in 1985.<p>I remember having this conversation with kids in my school who were the &quot;computer whizz&quot; kids at that time. I was a nobody as I never presented my skills on computers. I am shocked at their attitude towards it. They would always interrupt me, laughing at me, because I wasn&#x27;t part of their cliq. Because of their reputation in school, even the teachers were siding with them smirking. Their argument was always about the Windows 95&#x2F;98 PC&#x27;s in front of them. They did not think about the bigger picture. Software written in COBOL from past days still being used.<p>The joke of Y2K is not recent. It was a joke back then as well. It was either a joke or fearmongering. Majority sided with one (non computer people) or the other (many who thought they did)<p>Still we have 2038 - :-)
ath3nd超过 1 年前
Wait till 2038 :)
kurthr超过 1 年前
Don&#x27;t worry everyone will just assume that somebody else is fixing the Unix Rollover in 2038. Competence and stability breeds incompetence and instability.<p>Hopefully, we&#x27;re lucky and everything just migrates seamlessly to 64bit, but a Minsky Moment for technical rather than monetary debt would be pretty apropos. Maybe the LLM designed to port everything makes a silly mistake that goes unchecked. Who knows maybe it becomes Skynet.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Minsky_moment" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Minsky_moment</a>
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photonbeam超过 1 年前
Wait till they all find out about 2038
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