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Beijing criticises Netherlands’ move to block ASML exports to China

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holoduke超过 1 年前
I wonder if these actions will have the opposite effect. China will only more invest into producing their own. And I think we should not underestimate them. Could be good for competition though.
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leastangle超过 1 年前
While many people are likely more knowledgeable about this topic than I, I stumbled upon this Bloomberg video titled &quot;This Is How Huawei Shocked America With a Smartphone&quot; by chance a couple of weeks ago: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=08myo1UdTZ8" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=08myo1UdTZ8</a>. It provided some helpful context for me, and I thought it might be valuable for others as well.
Gow8876超过 1 年前
Just send in assassins. Those western countries leaders only have momentary leadership through voting election. After a couple elections, they are nobody. Consistently off them when they are nobody maybe together with their families. Do enough, western countries won&#x27;t have enough law enforcers to protect. Remember Charlie Hebdo massacre? After that, many western countries dare not offend Islam. Xi needs to do this mass assassinations. Anyone dare to offend Kim? He did that too frequently.
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corethree超过 1 年前
Hypothetical question... if China banned all trade with the US what would happen to the US? And what would happen to china?
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verisimi超过 1 年前
All those lovely whispered Dutch accents that the Chinese will be deprived of.... Life is cruel sometimes.
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janmo超过 1 年前
The US is trying to starve China out of advanced semiconductors, not sure this will end well (For Taiwan).
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rawrawrawrr超过 1 年前
&gt; Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Wang Wenbin on Tuesday urged the Netherlands &quot;to be impartial, respect market principles and the law, take practical actions to protect the common interests of both countries and their companies and maintain the stability of international supply chains&quot;.<p>This amuses me greatly. I had no idea China is explicitly pro-market capitalism.
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elzbardico超过 1 年前
This is completely idiotic policy for Netherland&#x27;s own interest. They are closing themselves from a huge market, just to satisfy the misguided ideas from the neocon think-tank spawns that infected both the last and the current US administration.<p>It won&#x27;t fucking work. Sanctions only work when targeted against weak countries, where they can have a devastating impact. Against a country like China, they just protect nascent industries. Yeah, profits are gonna suck for a while, investors are screaming bloody murder, but in countries like China, they don&#x27;t care as much about what their wall street thinks, and investors understand that they sometimes are going to lose, something which became anathema in the west.<p>We are not in heydays of early 2000&#x27;s globalism. Nation-States are not going anywhere and strategical national concerns became fashionable again. No force can stop it.<p>What is the US going to do? preemptively attack china? Have anyone thought about the logistical nightmare this entails? the fucking tragedy for supply chains and global commerce? How exactly the US thinks it is going to send a naval expeditionary force to south china sea? How those nice and expensive carrier groups pretend to survive the barrage of missiles, especially hypersonic ones? And then what? Hunker down in Taiwan while engaging in a decades long attrition war against China. Turning ourselves into a war economy so we can produce the mind-boggling amounts of ammo this would entails? and then to defend exactly what? the sacred ruins of bombed TSMC factories? Does those morons in the Pentagon and the State Department ever heard about the fact that wars cost money, and attrition wars even more, and that printing money by itself is not enough, because digits on a computer don&#x27;t win wars, but raw steel, diesel and chips do?<p>The only way of dealing with China is keeping them dependent on western technology, leveraging the west&#x27;s advantage not only in lithography, but also on optics and software to ensure that there&#x27;s no economical way for them to develop a competing industry, simply because there will be no reason for China&#x27;s industrial behemoths to shoot themselves on the foot by buying native chip technology that is worse and more expensive.
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