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How do we stop Meta in 2024? We fix the information loop

74 点作者 moritzruth超过 1 年前

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blfr超过 1 年前
Stop from doing what? Threads is even deader than Mastodon. Twitter faltered but recovered and competitors don&#x27;t have an opening any more.<p>Between Facebook&#x27;s (and its users) ageing out, Instagram quickly turning into yestermonth&#x27;s TikTok, and Threads going nowhere, it has never been this easy to avoid Facebook&#x2F;Meta&#x2F;Zuckerberg. Happy 2024!<p>Zuck is not building a common infrastructure for social media. Just like he&#x27;s not pivoting to owning the metaverse (lol) and we won&#x27;t be his virtual tenants.<p>As for the <i>Data Transfer Project or Data Transfer Initiative</i>, we already have a common, portable data format for social media. It&#x27;s screenshots of tweets. Yeah, it&#x27;s a crappy format but the users have spoken.
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ecshafer超过 1 年前
If meta is going to imminently collapse as the author believes, they should put their money where their mouth is: show your short position!<p>Theres this segment of, lets say highly online people, that think meta is about to die. But whatsapp, facebook and instagram are very heavily used by normal people.
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te_chris超过 1 年前
This and the author&#x27;s other post both remind me of tyler the creator&#x27;s famous tweet about cyber bullying (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;tylerthecreator&#x2F;status&#x2F;285670822264307712?lang=en" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;tylerthecreator&#x2F;status&#x2F;28567082226430771...</a>).<p>We choose where we put our time. Obviously it&#x27;s harder for teens etc, but we still have agency in this. I installed an app called clearspace that makes instagram annoying to open. It&#x27;s killed it for me. Using it less has shown me how little value it was delivereing me.<p>So, how does this reconcile? The author is too deep in social, they&#x27;re not seeing the forest for the trees. The problem isn&#x27;t some minute one about which social platform matters, the problem is that they&#x27;re bad products 90% of the time, with the occasional gleams of brilliance that keep us hooked.<p>I get the same value out of checking instagram for 5 min a day that I did when I didn&#x27;t have the chastity belt app and could check it continuously. This is a problem for Zuck. And Musk.<p>AI could read instgram for me and summarise, and my utility would increase even further.
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amelius超过 1 年前
The only thing I use social media for is &quot;events&quot;. Just give me a way to see what events exist around where I live, and who of my friends attend, then I&#x27;m happy.
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karaterobot超过 1 年前
&gt; In other words— Don’t stop talking. Don’t stop sharing. Don’t stop writing. It’s what we need the most right now.<p>What did I just read? Stop using their products, it is simple. Your plan will fail because it involves being mad at something you&#x27;re still addicted to, and hoping that fixes it.
moritzruth超过 1 年前
This is a follow-up post to this submission from yesterday: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38826617">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38826617</a>
infinityplus1超过 1 年前
Just spread a hoax that Meta is going to shut down because Zukerberg thinks he has earned enough money and there is no need to earn any more. Plenty of people will buy it.
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xhevahir超过 1 年前
Can anyone summarize this Platform As A Service idea for someone who doesn&#x27;t know much of anything about the Fediverse? How would this become Meta&#x27;s new business model in the event of Facebook&#x27;s death? (Which the author seems to believe is inevitable?)
cpach超过 1 年前
Site’s not reachable AFAICT, but the blog post is archived here: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20240102121433&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fromjason.xyz&#x2F;p&#x2F;notebook&#x2F;how-do-we-stop-meta-in-2024-we-fix-the-information-loop&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20240102121433&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.fromj...</a>
zzzeek超过 1 年前
I spend a lot of time on both Threads and Mastodon and I think the notion of Threads being highly interweaved with Mastodon is not really going to be much of a Thing. I&#x27;m sure it will be implemented from a technical perspective, but between the already immense hostility to Threads from Mastodon instance operators and users as well as the quite frankly gigantic gaping hole in culture between the two systems, there&#x27;s not going to be much interplay for very long. Having discussions on Threads vs. Mastodon one has to assume a completely different behavioral posture for each one, the former being all zingers and memes and the latter being fairly reasoned &#x2F;calm &#x2F; deliberative (but alas boring!) discussion. The Threads algorithm is really kind of a disaster so far, coupled with a very weak &#x2F; hobbled search etc., the site is still &quot;fun&quot; but in a really plastic kind of way.
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AnnaMere超过 1 年前
We built the hyper-local based informational social network, but the competition to beat meta sites is not meta sites like Insta or FB, but users using meta sites. To attract that user you will have to become something like meta, it is an infinite loop.<p>Hyper-local social network: Qocial.com
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tjpnz超过 1 年前
By turning its presence on a resume into a red flag.
iteratethis超过 1 年前
This entire series of articles is surely well intended, but so delusional.<p>Personal blogs were killed with the arrival of social networks. Enthusiasts still blog, which is great, I&#x27;m just saying it doesn&#x27;t move any needles. The typical information consumer is on their phone, has 1 or 2 social media apps, and checks their feed with minimal effort to optimize it, largely relying on algorithms, which is the entire reason people keep coming back.<p>The typical user of HN will be different, but the point is that you&#x27;re the exception.<p>Mastodon is similar to the personal blog situation. A charming attempt, but nothing more. It&#x27;s a delusion to think that it will fundamentally change the nature of social networks.<p>It&#x27;s an enthusiast network of misfits. 80% is left-wing Twitter refugees. Federation is broken (it can&#x27;t even sync likes or replies), there&#x27;s constant moderation wars, and the ever-present danger of your account, your followers and all your content getting lost. The network can&#x27;t scale because bills sky-rocket at the first sign of popularity and that doesn&#x27;t even include the fact that most social media is video content these days.<p>If you like Mastodon, good for you. But stop with the delusions.