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Did I destroy my friend's TV with a magnet? (2022)

28 点作者 reqo超过 1 年前

15 条评论

animal531超过 1 年前
When I was a kid in the mid 80&#x27;s we had a ball lightning incident.<p>Some family was over visiting and the adults were sitting in the adjoining dining room with us kids in the living room by the TV.<p>Lightning struck somewhere close by and a tennis sized ball of electricity entered the dining room through the outside wall. It crossed the room in about a second, went through the wall to enter the living room and then accelerated towards the TV.<p>When it hit the TV box the TV went out and the house lights flickered for a bit, but everything seemed fine. We turned the TV back on and it had a big purple corner which the degauss function couldn&#x27;t fix.<p>Overall it probably lasted about a week before the effect faded enough that it was no longer visible.
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simonblack超过 1 年前
All quality CRT TVs are automatically de-gaussed on switch-on. That&#x27;s the &#x27;toooong&#x27; you hear when they turn on.<p>A magnet <i>might</i> temporarily mess up the magnetic convergence with magnetised spot areas, but that should be fixed on next switch-on.<p><i>The Earth’s magnetic field can also affect the picture</i><p>That&#x27;s because when the convergence controls are set correctly, they also take care of the magnetic field of the earth too at the same time. If you turn the TV upside down, you would also have to reset the convergence controls. No biggie, but it is something that needs doing.
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kamilner超过 1 年前
There&#x27;s a throwaway comment in here about the earth&#x27;s magnetic field affecting CRTs and turning the TV upside down, is that actually true? I would have thought the earth&#x27;s magnetic field would be incredibly weak in comparison to the deflecting coils.
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masswerk超过 1 年前
Maybe worth noting in the context of HN: There are two types of electron emissions in a CRT. The primary emission, which produces the visible image, and the secondary emission, which causes an electron well around the excited spot, as free electrons take up positions of the electrons emitted by the primary emission. It&#x27;s the latter that was utilized in the CRT memory Williams-Kilburn tubes (the first viable random access memory), which detected that local depletion of electrons in the phosphor in the read cycle.<p>Moreover, there were also dark-trace CRTs or Skiatrons (developed just before WWII and used for Radar during the war), producing a dark-on-light image, which were also based on the secondary emission, rather than the primary one. (Technically, this was based on the displacement of free electrons in an alkali-halide crystal lattice, which made the CRT locally opaque.)
oniony超过 1 年前
I actually did this, inadvertently, as a kid in the 1980s on my parents&#x27; four-channel television set. From what I can remember (I was quite young) it pulled the colour towards the spot where I placed the magnet and left the rest of the image in monochrome. I vaguely remember finding it interesting the way the colours moved around but my parents were less impressed for some reason.<p>They had it fixed though: a guy came out from the shop with a hand-held degaussing tool and it was just fine afterwards.
NoZebra120vClip超过 1 年前
One time when I was very young, I was already such a tech-nerd that I chose to attack my father with a magnet, intended to damage his wristwatch.<p>I was calmly informed that he&#x27;d already selected a watch that was immune to magnetic fields. But of course that was a real danger to old-fashioned movements which had many ferrous parts that relied on not sticking together.<p>I never lived it down. Some of our childish rebellions are ridiculous in retrospect!
roelschroeven超过 1 年前
&gt; There are many CRTs in your TV or monitor. They are each aimed to deliver electrons to a precise spot on the back of your TV where they excite the phospor in the tiny spot on your TV that the electron hits. Magnets are used to guide the electrons to that precise (and tiny) spot. The excited phosphor molecules at that spot then emit light. All the CRTs working together generate the picture on your TV.<p>That&#x27;s incorrect: there aren&#x27;t many CRTs in a TV or monitor. There&#x27;s just one in monochrome displays or three in color displays. That paragraph even seems to imply that there is one CRT per dot. I don&#x27;t think you would even need magnets to guide electrons (much less one set of magnets for all the CRTs): just aim each CRT at the correct location. Seems a weird misconception from someone who calls themselves a physicist.
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LocalH超过 1 年前
This only applies to color CRTs that use a shadow mask or aperture grille. Monochrome CRTs, and the few color CRTs that don&#x27;t rely on a piece of metal to ensure the electrons hit <i>only</i> the correct phosphors, are completely immune to lasting damage from a magnet (although in theory a strong enough magnet could alter the magnetism of the existing magnets that correct the set&#x27;s deflection). A magnet will still distort the image of a monochrome set, but once you remove the magnet, the image should return back to normal.
heelix超过 1 年前
Back in the days when LCD computer monitors were ridiculously expensive for a 15&quot; monitor, I was at a customer in NYC where they had hundreds rather than the standard &#x27;tv&#x27; style monitor of the time. Turns out, they had moved to a new location too near the subway system - and every time the train went by, it would mess with the old displays. Apparently whatever savings they got from the change in location was gobbled up by needing that cutting edge hardware.
lukev超过 1 年前
Is it just me, or does the article not actually answer the question in the title? It explains the components well, and how a magnet distorts the image, but does not describe <i>which</i> component is capable of being permanently altered by an external magnetic field.<p>Is it the phosphor coating? The deflecting coils? Some sort of static field in the glass?
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LispSporks22超过 1 年前
I permanently damaged my family’s tv with a car loud speaker I was playing with as kid. It left a big blemish, colored shadow shape and since we were kinda poor (didn’t know at the time), we lived with it for ages… oh the guilt!<p>Was fun to understand the election beam was being deflected a magnetic field at the time tho
dcdc123超过 1 年前
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dcdc123超过 1 年前
&gt; For example, LED TV use individual LEDs to switch on and off to construct a picture.<p>Um...
uslic001超过 1 年前
I ruined a Sony TV in the late 1970&#x27;s with a pacemaker magnet my father (a physician) brought home from work. My parents were not happy with me. It was able to be repaired.
pajko超过 1 年前
My father used to repair magnet damages done to TV screens by a soldering gun transformer.