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Gabe Newell Talks Linux Steam Client, Source Engine

133 点作者 Smotko大约 13 年前

11 条评论

sho_hn大约 13 年前
Even though Steam invites its own problems (it's ultimately a form of DRM, a closed platform, and a closed-source application), as a FOSS developer I can't help but feel excited about this prospect. I know many, many people in the 15-35 age bracket who are open to and curious about Linux, even tried it, but ultimately didn't stick with it because of the lack of high-end native games and because rebooting or setting up Wine is too much of a hassle. Valve has tremendous power to change this and legitimize Linux as a platform in their eyes.<p>Plus, there's already a lot of games in the Steam catalogue that have native Linux versions available:<p>- Dozens of independent titles, e.g. everything that was in those Humble Bundles.<p>- Everything using the DOSBox emulator to run even on Windows, e.g. id's Commander Keen, some Lucasarts Star Wars games, etc.<p>- Even a bunch of AAA titles: id Software's games (Doom, Quake) and games that have licensed their engine (e.g. Human Head's Prey), games that were ported by Linux Game Publishing (e.g. Egosoft's X series of spaceflight simulators), several games by Epic (e.g. Unreal Tournament) or using an Epic engine (e.g. Rune and Deus Ex, ported by Loki), Neverwinter Nights, Civilization: Call to Power, ...<p>Add Valve's own games and possibly some of the other games using their Source engine, and you could easily make 100-150 games available on Linux within a year of launch just from <i>what's already there</i>. But even more exciting is the notion of Steam's availability making more game makers consider adding Linux to their list of supported platforms <i>going forward</i> because the distribution problem is solved for them.
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drostie大约 13 年前
Perversely, I grew to <i>like</i> the fact that Linux doesn't really have many games for it. I think we could say that I lost many hours of my life to MMOs and RPGs, though perhaps "lost" should be in scare quotes. It's kind of the same reason that I don't own consoles or a television -- I lost as large a chunk of my life to watching Star Trek as I lost to playing Morrowind, after all.<p>With hope, I am now mature enough to overcome temptation. So I wish all of my fellow Lingeeks: happy gaming.
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jiggy2011大约 13 年前
I wonder if Valve <i>wants</i> Linux to beat Microsoft? After all MS are working towards building their own app store into the Windows platform which could be used to muscle Steam out.<p>Valve actually has a lot of power to play kingmaker here in a way.<p>Let's suppose that Valve announce HL3 but <i>also</i> announce that it will be a Linux exclusive title for some period (say 1-3 months), what would happen to the Linux desktop market share then?<p>I could see it easily double to treble within a week, of course many of these would be dual-booters and I wonder what would happen to the increased market share once the game was subsequently released for Windows?
Osiris大约 13 年前
With the recent rumors around the idea of a Steam-based console, is it possible that all this work for a Linux client and native Linux steam engine is setting the framework for an open source (software and hardware) based console.<p>EDIT: I see other comments state that Valve is not working on any sort of console. Still, it leaves me thinking they may have a longer-term plan than just selling games to Linux users.
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darklajid大约 13 年前
Okay, I'd love to see that and the story's great.<p>Having said that: This is the URL:<p><a href="http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&#38;item=valve_linux_dampfnudeln&#38;num=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&#38;item=valve...</a><p>I have the unfortunate issue of inspecting URLs I navigate to. This one contains an 'item' called 'valve_linux_dampfnudeln'. What? Searching the page for 'dampf' gives no result. I fear that I won't be able to sleep tonight if no one can tell me what kind of reference this is.<p>Why am I deeply confused? <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dampfnudel" rel="nofollow">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dampfnudel</a>
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Lockyy大约 13 年前
So, when are the jokes about this being the year of linux on the desktop going to start? Not being negative about the possibility, I do think that games are a large stumbling block to that endgame.
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AndrewDucker大约 13 年前
So, the forthcoming Valve console will be running Linux!
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nsomaru大约 13 年前
He keeps on stating how high their level of commitment is, but never gets into any details.<p>Frustrating to read.
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larrik大约 13 年前
This would be VERY good for Humble Indie Bundles, I think.
beedogs大约 13 年前
<i>"In fact, as soon as I return to my office this weekend I plan to try out Windows 8 simply to see if it's as bad as Gabe states"</i><p>Oh, dear God, yes, it is.
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notjustanymike大约 13 年前
I would love to read that article. Unfortunately the amount of advertising, popup junk, and other crap make it near impossible.