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Why not RSS?

15 点作者 akurilov超过 1 年前

7 条评论

johntask超过 1 年前
I think the article oversimplifies a lot. Resource efficiency is just a tiny part of why RSS isn&#x27;t more popular, and definitely not the main cause. It&#x27;s actually a complex issue; for instance, RSS deprieves services from a way to effectively profile users.<p>Besides, the solution is not clarified enough. I read the linked website but there isn&#x27;t a lot of details. Is it a sort of cloud service that receives push notifications for the user? The only thing I see is that it requires registration, and that can&#x27;t be a good signal.<p>By the way, most RSS clients don&#x27;t update that often. Mine does it every six hours.
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dadie超过 1 年前
While I can only speak for myself, I kindly disagree with the reasoning.<p>The main reason that made me stop using RSS&#x2F;Atom in my private life was that most sites stopped providing full feeds and instead opted for only showing the headlines or headlines with a short snippet. Even those sites without any ads started doing that for some reason. If I have to use a browser to read the articles anyway I might as well simply check once a day my usual sites, because that will just work for the foreseeable future in contrast to any RSS&#x2F;Atom alternative which is doomed to have the same fate.<p>The main reason that made me stop using RSS&#x2F;Atom in my professional life was compliance and the only available RSS reader being Microsoft Outlook which is IMHO an awful RSS reader. Also I had ever so often a clash with our internal IT-Department because they assumed my frequent pulling of some job-related feeds were due to a computer virus and it just became a hassle to convince them again (and again) that it was not. So instead I made a daily reminder with a time slot of 15min to look manually at the few job related sites and use mostly the link-highlighting of the browser to identify if I already read something.<p>To sum it all up. As soon as RSS&#x2F;Atom did not work anymore for me I opted to adapt in a way that would not force me to adapt again. Given that any 3rd party service is bound to be broken at some point I&#x27;d rather accept my fate than fighting the inevitable.
slyall超过 1 年前
The numbers there are bogus. In reality your client isn&#x27;t setup to ping remote sites every 15 minutes. Instead it&#x27;ll learn and only ping once per day or so (or if you force a refresh).<p>Whats more if you use a SaaS based service then it&#x27;ll only refresh each site once for the dozens to thousands of customers who subscribe.
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eviks超过 1 年前
&gt; Allowing a service to notify is the same as open the door to the hell of spam. Basically, we loose the control on what we want to receive<p>That doesn&#x27;t make sense. You have no control over what&#x27;s in the feed, the feed owner does
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remram超过 1 年前
I always want to upvote RSS discussions, but damn this is a bad article. The numbers are wrong (feed fetches can be deduplicated and 15min is a silly number), the arguments are wrong (Firefox had a <i>local</i> RSS client, how could it waste server resources), the pretense that Facebook is the web (might have made sense 10 years ago). The ramble about push being disorganized, I can&#x27;t parse at all.<p>Then it hits us with an ad for what seems to be an RSS client SaaS (a real one, not the strawman they critiqued). Wtf?
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jj999超过 1 年前
RSS is head over heels. In an ideal world, websites would connect to users wanting the information and then a notification server installed on their devices would listen for incoming connection and display the wanted notifications. No tradeoff between latency and wasted bandwidth. Sadly the Internet isn&#x27;t a peer-to-peer network anymore and dynamic IP, NAT and firewalls make this impossible.
zaik超过 1 年前
Why not XMPP PubSub instead of a proprietary solution?
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