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Behind the scenes: the struggle for each paper (2021)

147 点作者 lazyjeff超过 1 年前

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schneems超过 1 年前
I had an assignment in the OMSCS course where we had to turn the results of a project into a paper and a presentation. It was eye opening on why so many CS papers are difficult to decipher.<p>I’m used to writing on the web where the scroll is unlimited and everything is hyperlink able and potentially interactive. Journal papers are limited by length and so was our assignment. I had to cut virtually all helpful explanation needed to reproduce my results which was deeply frustrating. We were implementing an algorithm based on another paper and it was hard because key details were omitted or assumptions not stated. After that exercise I have to think some of it was intentional to get it down to size.<p>I find most people aren’t good at technical communication and teaching others without a LOT of practice. Even then it requires feedback and iteration to make sure the ideas are communicated well. Forcing people to be more succinct and omit details makes the final product worse to consume. I don’t know how common such limitations are these days, but I do know that the average paper is still out of reach of the average programmer (where it would likely have the most benefit).
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ketzo超过 1 年前
What a great resource, both for self-reflection and for a student who wanted to chase a similar career. I should really do something similar for my history of paid work.<p>It’s not like I have a crazy illustrious career or anything, but it can feel like kind of a blur, just a rollercoaster that led inexorably towards the present, which couldn’t be further from the truth; I would love to be able to reflect on my successes (and failures!) and see the small, concrete steps I took towards each.<p>Even without writing it out, I know the connections I have made and the mentors &#x2F; coworkers &#x2F; friends who have helped me deserve <i>much</i> more credit than any individual strokes of brilliance on my part! Another thing that’s very easy for me to forget, day-to-day.
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halgir超过 1 年前
No way - reading this I thought I recalled one of the papers (Starcraft from the Stands). Pulled up my Zotero library, and sure enough, I cited it in my BA thesis almost ten years ago.<p>What a pleasant coincidence - thanks for the contribution!
amadeuspagel超过 1 年前
There&#x27;s this new thing that some academics are working on at CERN - kind of like academic papers, with references and so forth, but on the computer.<p>Once this is ready, people will just be able to publish their &quot;papers&quot; there. I guess they&#x27;ll be called something else then. But this sort of struggle to publish a &quot;paper&quot; will no longer be necessary.
jll29超过 1 年前
Thanks for sharing a behind-the-curtain view on the history of your publications.<p>Thank you even more for publishing WebGazer and for following a &quot;systems&quot; approach in your research, when most people produce only papers. It&#x27;s systems as research artifacts that encode the exact methods as described in the papers but in sufficient detail to be executable that drive innovation. Sadly, system papers are rather hard to publish, despite taking longer (software that is released needs to be much more polished than software that you are going to keep to yourself).
fallon54超过 1 年前
AKA why you probably don&#x27;t want to be in academia
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godelski超过 1 年前
&gt; But this paper was critical to getting me accepted to a Ph.D. program. Why do I think that? Well I was rejected by every Ph.D. program I applied to before this publication (but that&#x27;s another story), a story about people and opportunity.<p>This is an interesting note. We&#x27;re talking about a student from one of the top CS schools (UIUC) and applying to another top school (UW). If you think about this a bit carefully, the paper being published did not change who he was or his capabilities, it was simply a difference in measured (distinct from measurable) signal.<p>It&#x27;s incredible how many extremely noisy signals we use in academia but act as if we use a clear meritocracy. The review process is extremely noisy itself, with computer science in particular being generally more noisy given its preference of conferences over journals. I&#x27;m glad Jeff mentions people and opportunities, and it reminds me of the old saying about there being no self made man. But I think this is a very clear example of a instance where we need to think harder and more carefully. Counterfactually, it is almost certain that had that paper been rejected, but all else stays the same (i.e. getting into UW), his success story would also not change. Signals are definitely hard to measure and certainly schools are getting a lot of applicants, so I don&#x27;t blame anyone for doing this, but I think it is incredibly important to remember these counterfactuals. To remember that metrics are guides and not causal variables themselves. Because there&#x27;s a great irony in that metrics destroy meritocracies.
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BrandoElFollito超过 1 年前
Another thing is that there is not enough pushback from the community at large.<p>My PhD thesis was less than 40 pages long. The introduction was 1&#x2F;2 a page (basically &quot;if you need an introduction you should not read this, here are 3,4 books to get you started&quot;).<p>Then I copied&#x2F;pasted from my articles and then came the acknowledgments (which I actually fund valuable because I wanted to thank my advisor for his non-science-related help and a friend for her magnificent idea that turned around the thesis. And my parents, wife, dog etc.)<p>Then the conclusion (&quot;brilliant work&quot;)<p>And then a discussion with myself about everything that I fucked up and what could be improved (my advisor fainted on that one).<p>The jury was 8 people. The younger&#x2F;more dynamic ones were super happy (especially that they made their review a page long as well). The older ones were disgusted and said that clearly. I got my PhD.<p>I fought in Academia for a few years to bring some change but eventually left (also for other reasons). If I was to stay for my whole career I would have tried again and again to change the status quo.
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taopai超过 1 年前
Papers... our new religion...
darthoctopus超过 1 年前
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patrickmay超过 1 年前
Nearly three times the number of papers published by Claudine Gay. Why isn&#x27;t he President of Harvard?
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