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The Mating Psychology of Incels – The Journal of Sex Research

52 点作者 instagraham超过 1 年前

13 条评论

sublinear超过 1 年前
&gt; Incels will overestimate women’s minimum standards for mate-preferences. They will also overemphasize the importance of physical attractiveness and financial prospects and under emphasize the importance of kindness, intelligence, and humor<p>I feel like this is the most obvious answer and most in line with everyday experience.<p>There are so many men who are victims of a society that tells them to work hard. With enough hard work any man can look good and make money. &quot;Kindness, intelligence, and humor&quot; are not only not required, but often seen as weakness. There&#x27;s some merit to thinking that way because when things get tough those traits aren&#x27;t going to help you very much. The world is extremely favorable towards men that know how to be successful solo. This doesn&#x27;t necessarily attract women though, especially not good women, so here we are.<p>Compounding this effect is that the latest generations of women are on the same path valuing the shallow things in life and only knowing how to work, but not live.
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pizza234超过 1 年前
There&#x27;s surprisingly little research on relationship disorders, in particular, in the area of dating.<p>If Gilmartin (who I think was the first to research the involutary celibate more formally) were more rigorous and&#x2F;or if psychologists would have have extracted the good points and developed them, today we&#x27;d likely have a better (or at least, better prepared) society. Sadly, Gilmartin is partially reponsible for turning to the topic from something taboo-ish into a laughing stock.<p>It also seems that some people here don&#x27;t know - modern acception of &quot;incel&quot; is, confusingly, more specific than &quot;involuntary celibates&quot;; it refers to an online, tendentially misogynistic, subculture of involuntary celibates.<p>If some readers here identify themselves with people with serious relationship disorders, seek a therapist - this disorder can be impossible to heal without professional services.
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thrwawaythygyh超过 1 年前
why does this place turn so cruel and kick their fellow men when they&#x27;re down? if this was an issue that affected the other gender, the tone here would be a lot different.
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kfrzcode超过 1 年前
&gt; Targeted for interventions<p>Someone needs to brush up on their ho3_m4th<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=n4aMiAesXjE" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.youtube.com&#x2F;watch?v=n4aMiAesXjE</a>
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29athrowaway超过 1 年前
Incels are low on extraversion, high on neuroticism, not open to experience, low on agreeableness, low on conscientiousness.<p>If you had those traits during a winter in 10,000 BC, from the moment you started complaining about the cold, and being pessimistic about the upcoming mammoth hunt, and such... the tribe would not be as tolerant as our modern society.
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throwaway12445超过 1 年前
Takeaways.<p>1. Incels and non-incels have a very similar views about women&#x27;s preferences.<p>2. Incels have lower standards than non-incels.<p>I would like to see a study that measures incel and non-incel attractiveness to see if there is a big difference between populations.
gettodachoppa超过 1 年前
There&#x27;s no such thing as &quot;involuntarily celibate&quot;, it&#x27;s just another BS term in the fanfiction-as-science narrative of the typical hacks. I&#x27;ve seen men on Twitter who are literally married with children get called incels, just for having the wrong political opinions or even criticizing a crappy Marvel movie!<p>Anyone can get a girlfriend if they lower their standards enough, so in the end it&#x27;s their choice, so it cannot be involuntary. The only way someone could be an incel is if they got thrown in prison and have no way to actually meet women, or other examples like this
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nox101超过 1 年前
TL;DR Incels over estimate how much attractiveness and money matters and it might be nice to educate them<p>Also: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slatestarcodex.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;08&#x2F;31&#x2F;radicalizing-the-romanceless&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;slatestarcodex.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;08&#x2F;31&#x2F;radicalizing-the-roman...</a>
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jelavich超过 1 年前
Someone head to 4chan and let themknow
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dekken_超过 1 年前
Please stop using that word, no one but the person in question gets to decide if they are celebate or not, it&#x27;s really disingenuous, and just indicates you don&#x27;t understand the notion of consent.
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newsclues超过 1 年前
In this thread: some blatant prejudice and hate towards men.
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hoseja超过 1 年前
&gt;Modern humans descend from an unbroken evolutionary chain of ancestors who successfully solved these problems.<p>Classic suifuel in the second sentence already.
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zozbot234超过 1 年前
Look, it&#x27;s even simpler than that. Incels hate women, that&#x27;s their whole schtick. Why would any self-respecting woman want to be with someone who literally hates said woman&#x27;s gender? Maybe you could &quot;educate&quot; incels on being less hateful, and their romantic prospects might improve.
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