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Flipper Zero: Multi-Tool Device for Geeks

685 点作者 thatxliner超过 1 年前

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tkems超过 1 年前
I got one not too long after the official launch and I&#x27;ve used it a decent amount (granted I am in cybersecurity and have a more real-world use cases then the average person). My favorite use case is the IR remote since phones no longer have IR blasters. It&#x27;s saved me twice so far in having to buy&#x2F;find a remote for something.<p>One thing people don&#x27;t realize is that the custom firmware [0] that you can run allows you to receive and transmit on a wide range of frequencies under 1Ghz. Lots of things use that range (garage doors, gates, fan remotes, etc.) and are not very secure. I think that this will be a time looked back on where it&#x27;s possible to interact with those devices without having to buy a custom PCB transmitter or somewhat expensive and complex SDR.<p>[0] <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;DarkFlippers&#x2F;unleashed-firmware">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;DarkFlippers&#x2F;unleashed-firmware</a>
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5440超过 1 年前
My son was just arrested for using this in his hacking club at high school. Be careful if you have kids with one. According to witnesses in the room, he was showing it to kids in his hacking club and they all thought it was just turning off Apple phones in the classrooom. Apparently, it turned off phones including several teachers in adjoining classrooms. Anyways. The police came to the school and arrested him and are threatening him&#x2F;us with federal crimes. They also executed a search warrant in our house and took all electronics. Its been a little traumatising to say the least.
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ChuckMcM超过 1 年前
This is a super fun gizmo, it&#x27;s discord channel is, uh, not great.<p>One cool thing is that you can talk to it serially. I pretty quickly had it organized with an IoT temperature sensor so that it could send commands to my ceiling fan given the temperature in my office.<p>I have also used it to capture the NFC code on a hotel card key so that I could still get into my room even after my key was inevitably &quot;damaged&quot; by nearness to other fields.<p>Some parts of it are silly, like the Tomagachi type game with the dolphin. Doesn&#x27;t add value for me, but I can see how it might be something for someone.<p>There is also growing awareness with agencies about its flexibility, some apocryphal stories of them being confiscated by TSA checkpoints have come in.<p>Writing your own apps for them has a fairly high learning curve.
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futhey超过 1 年前
When people realized anyone with a sophisticated police scanner could listen in on cordless (and then early cellular) phone calls, it forced manufacturers to actually implement a bare-minimum level of security on those devices.<p>I hope this pushes more manufacturers to switch to rolling-code algorithms (like the key fob your car uses), in place of simpler, less secure codes that can be captured and replayed.
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ChrisArchitect超过 1 年前
Recent news discussions:<p>Flipper Zero can be used to crash iPhones running iOS 17<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37919396">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37919396</a><p>Apple Shuts Down Flipper Zero&#x27;s Ability to Shut Down iPhones<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38656607">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38656607</a><p>Flipper Zero banned by Amazon for being a ‘card skimming device’<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35481580">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35481580</a><p>UK airport confiscates passenger&#x27;s Flipper Zero<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37707486">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37707486</a>
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LZ2DMV超过 1 年前
Apart from access control systems, it hardly has any good uses in the real world as a pen-testing device. If it was a pocket carry, true SDR, capable of recording RF signals as I&#x2F;Q, performing actions on them, replaying them, etc, it would have justified its cost. But, with a limited set of modulations supported by the used RF chips, it is more like a toy for hacker wanna-be teenagers than a serious tool.<p>An investment in something like HackRF+PortaPack clone is far better, IMHO.
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some-natalie超过 1 年前
It&#x27;s good as a bluetooth presentation remote, sharing QR codes or NFC contact info at conferences, and jiggling your mouse so your VPN connection doesn&#x27;t die when your laptop locks up. It was handy around the house over the holidays too (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;some-natalie.dev&#x2F;blog&#x2F;flipper-at-home&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;some-natalie.dev&#x2F;blog&#x2F;flipper-at-home&#x2F;</a>).<p>It&#x27;s a decent multitool. :-)
rabbitofdeath超过 1 年前
I have found it pretty useful in a few situations: - USB&#x2F;Mouse keyboard when the iMac you are working on has totally dead batteries for the mouse&#x2F;keyboard- its not fun but works in a pinch.<p>- Cloning weird ceiling fans&#x2F;lights. Apparently I&#x27;ve bought horrible remotes but this helped.<p>- Used this as a nightstand clock while traveling.<p>- Used the authenticator app as a backup Yubi key<p>- Mouse jiggler to keep a computer awake<p>- blasting tvs at restaurants is a ton of fun and my kids like that.<p>- And the IR functionality for Nerf Laser Ops Pro (IR laser tag) is an absolute blast - the actual Nerf guns have a delayed trigger, but with Flipper there is no delay or need to &quot;reload&quot; so you are an unstoppable beast.
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byb超过 1 年前
I tried using a Flipper with some NFC stickers so I wouldn&#x27;t have to carry around so many FOBs and cards. It turns out that the Flipper does not excel at this task. It complained that the NFC stickers I bought were non-writable. And it couldn&#x27;t read all the sectors on some NFC tags. However, I was able to use the Android MCT app to write to the same stickers and read the tags the flipper couldn&#x27;t read. Cloning required copying strings to the clipboard, which is something the Flipper&#x27;s UI is not really designed for.
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pnw超过 1 年前
I would love to get one but articles like this about the Russian connection put me off.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;simovits.com&#x2F;flipper-zero-zero-trust&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;simovits.com&#x2F;flipper-zero-zero-trust&#x2F;</a>
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geor9e超过 1 年前
$169 is a bit steep for me, so I went on Temu and bought a $8 125KHz RFID programmer &amp; a $5 USB-C IR Blaster. Combined with my Samsung phones native NFC writing, bluetooth, etc I feel like it scratched the itch of 90% of what people do with Flipper for 10% the cost.
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roughly超过 1 年前
I’ve had one of these guys sitting around for a while - love the hardware, love the concept, but I haven’t really found a lot of use for it - what are y’all using them for?
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kristopolous超过 1 年前
I really resent the marketing of this product. It&#x27;s as if they invented the cheap RF chips they&#x27;re using and are the exclusive distributors of it.<p>It&#x27;s rubbed me as thoroughly dishonest and fraudulent.<p>I know this is currently a minority position, that&#x27;s why I took the time to state it.
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Duanemclemore超过 1 年前
Oh man. If my friends and I had this in high school things probably would have gotten even more out of control.
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dymk超过 1 年前
Bad actors are going to ruin this cool little device for everyone else. For every story I hear about a cool usecase for it, there&#x27;s another about it being used to annoy or harm others.
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127361超过 1 年前
Flipper Zero was designed in Russia, the company moved since the start of the war.
dang超过 1 年前
Related. Others?<p><i>Apple Shuts Down Flipper Zero&#x27;s Ability to Shut Down iPhones</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38656607">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38656607</a> - Dec 2023 (26 comments)<p><i>Tiny device is sending updated iPhones into a never-ending DoS loop</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38125426">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38125426</a> - Nov 2023 (108 comments)<p><i>Probably Buy a Flipper Zero Before It&#x27;s Too Late</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38025786">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=38025786</a> - Oct 2023 (27 comments)<p><i>Flipper Zero can be used to crash iPhones running iOS 17</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37919396">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37919396</a> - Oct 2023 (33 comments)<p><i>UK airport confiscates passenger&#x27;s Flipper Zero</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37707486">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37707486</a> - Sept 2023 (44 comments)<p><i>Flipper-Xtreme-Firmware: Give your Flipper Zero the power it is craving</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37519277">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37519277</a> - Sept 2023 (4 comments)<p><i>Flipper Zero can spam nearby iPhones with Bluetooth pop-ups</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37397481">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=37397481</a> - Sept 2023 (44 comments)<p><i>Flipper Zero Controlling Traffic Lights [video]</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36756787">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36756787</a> - July 2023 (3 comments)<p><i>Flipper Zero Self Destructs an Electricity Smart Meter</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36253591">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36253591</a> - June 2023 (210 comments)<p><i>FlipperZero: 1 Month Battery Life with Firmware Update</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35735415">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35735415</a> - April 2023 (82 comments)<p><i>Flipper Zero banned by Amazon for being a ‘card skimming device’</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35481580">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35481580</a> - April 2023 (133 comments)<p><i>Brazil seizing Flipper Zero shipments to prevent use in crime</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35109931">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35109931</a> - March 2023 (67 comments)<p><i>Hacker Uncovers How to Turn Traffic Lights Green with Flipper Zero</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34872104">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34872104</a> - Feb 2023 (4 comments)<p><i>Trying Out Flipper Zero</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34215390">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34215390</a> - Jan 2023 (99 comments)<p><i>Hands on with Flipper Zero, the Hacker Tool Blowing Up on TikTok</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34102109">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=34102109</a> - Dec 2022 (2 comments)<p><i>FlipperZero hardware hacker released for US sales</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33720764">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33720764</a> - Nov 2022 (7 comments)<p><i>Bad news: US Customs have seized a container with 15k Flippers Zero</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33073141">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=33073141</a> - Oct 2022 (13 comments)<p><i>PayPal blocked Flipper Zero account with $1.3M</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32739950">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32739950</a> - Sept 2022 (105 comments)<p><i>Flipper Zero – Portable Multi-Tool Device for Geeks</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32166058">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=32166058</a> - July 2022 (263 comments)<p><i>Quick Start Guide for Flipper Zero</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=31368209">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=31368209</a> - May 2022 (137 comments)<p><i>Flipper Zero: How it’s made and tested</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27704883">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27704883</a> - July 2021 (34 comments)<p><i>Flipper Zero: Bringing Cases to Perfection</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27479684">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27479684</a> - June 2021 (6 comments)<p><i>Case manufacturing behind the scenes</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27155584">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=27155584</a> - May 2021 (1 comment)<p><i>Flipper Zero: Tamagochi for Hackers</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=26405919">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=26405919</a> - March 2021 (48 comments)<p><i>Flipper Zero Manufacturing and Shipping Plan</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25870255">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=25870255</a> - Jan 2021 (14 comments)<p><i>Flipper Zero – Tamagochi for Hackers</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=23996733">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=23996733</a> - July 2020 (53 comments)<p><i>Show HN: Flipper Zero – Tamagotchi for Hackers</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22941733">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22941733</a> - April 2020 (10 comments)<p><i>Tamagotchi for Hackers</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22859083">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=22859083</a> - April 2020 (1 comment)<p><i>Flipper Zero: Under Development Multi-Tool Device for Pen-Testers</i> - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21842830">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=21842830</a> - Dec 2019 (1 comment)
tehwebguy超过 1 年前
I love this thing but I mostly just use it to avoid touching hotel TV remotes.
hemanthb超过 1 年前
“Outside” perspective after I was recently gifted one for my birthday: it’s a fun and easy tool to learn about hardware. I became a programmer through the “Applied Math” route (Causal Inference -&gt; Probability -&gt; UL -&gt; DL -&gt; CS). Never owned a Raspberry Pi&#x2F;Arduino and too busy to get into hobbyist electronics. The Flipper is accessible and low friction, motivates learning eg about GPIO, and is the first time I’ve messed with firmware and signals.
philip1209超过 1 年前
I&#x27;ve mainly use Flipper Zero to duplicate my digital apartment keys (iButton then later RFID fobs). It&#x27;s so easy to duplicate a physical apartment key, but making backups of the digital equivalents is annoyingly tedious. Plus, apartment managers treat them as scarce commodities and refuse to give backups.<p>With Flipper Zero I now have backup keys in my backpack, on my dog&#x27;s leash, in my running belt, and with close friends. It&#x27;s great.
system2超过 1 年前
Hard to justify the cost. I see the ads everywhere for this device. If you have this product please review it for everyone.
holografix超过 1 年前
Anyone tried to crash Bluetooth speakers with this? I’d buy one immediately if I can mute loud tvs and harmlessly disable Bluetooth speakers from a distance.<p>My new rental only provided us with one garage door remote and it looks ancient. Fairly certain this could an overly expensive extra garage door remote.
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iceflinger超过 1 年前
Even beyond the wireless stuff it&#x27;s focused on, it&#x27;s super useful as a combined UART bridge, SPI Flash dumper, DAPLink debugger and other hardware tools.
spacecadet超过 1 年前
The flipper has great size&#x2F;capabilities. I mainly use it for NFC&#x2F;NF wireless pen-testing. Some clients use NF payments and this gives me a single click testing tooling.<p>As others have said, if you want real capabilities get into SDR. My real kit includes HackRF piped into wireshark.<p>Lastly, a community that has seen a bump recently, Pwnagotchi. Its worth checking out and to me has alot of potential.
shantnutiwari超过 1 年前
I got one some time ago, and like my rpi, has been sitting in teh drawer since.<p>Another one of those &quot;Sounds cool, but not really useful&quot; tools
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dfc超过 1 年前
I have seen a lot of hardware addon boards lately. They are rarely, if ever in stock. Are there any good ones?
dr_kiszonka超过 1 年前
I&#x27;d love to have one to learn more about radios with my kids. Some of Flipper&#x27;s apps look pretty interesting too.<p>Probably out of scope, but I hope FlipperOne has a few environmental sensors too. (In a perfect world, it would also have thermal imaging, but these sensors are way too expensive.)
yakshaving_jgt超过 1 年前
My Flipper Zero has been useful for me while living in Ukraine.<p>For some reason, many apartment buildings require the use of a little electronic tag not only to open the outside gates, but also to operate the elevator to reach someone&#x27;s apartment. This also includes trying to use the elevator to reach the ground floor, <i>e.g.</i>, when you leave your friend&#x27;s apartment and you are going home. So you can&#x27;t leave the building with the elevator without your friend coming out and unlocking it for you. It&#x27;s madness.<p>So, I clone my friends&#x27; tags (with their knowledge) and come and go as I please.
dzink超过 1 年前
The initial marketing mentioned that flippers can exchange collected data as a social interaction. The reason I haven’t bought it is that I don’t want private stuff used and home being leaked to flippers nearby or to a central server. Any experience with that?
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cactusplant7374超过 1 年前
The problem with the Flipper is it&#x27;s missing documentation. And new learners need documentation. The response from the Flipper team has been telling people to read the source code.
bastardoperator超过 1 年前
I bring this when travelling so I can dupe remotes and door keys.
xyst超过 1 年前
I got one. Only thing I used it for was scanning my dogs microchip
notatoad超过 1 年前
this seems like a cool device that people actually like, but it&#x27;s crazy that i&#x27;ve still never seen a blog post of &quot;hey check out this cool thing i did&quot; that just happens to use a flipper. it&#x27;s always the other way around, the point is to have a flipper and find things to do with it, not to have a flipper because it does something you want.<p>i buy lots of nerdy toys, but can we all just admit that this is a toy, not a tool?
AlbertCory超过 1 年前
I saw this and thought &quot;I need this toy!&quot;<p>Their website wouldn&#x27;t take my credit card. Needless to say, it&#x27;s a good card and I used it on other sites that same day and after. I wrote to Support.<p>Three days later, they wrote back and suggested I try a different card. Sorry, Flipper, you lose. Nice idea, but a company is more than a piece of hardware.
hnthrowaway0328超过 1 年前
I&#x27;m thinking about building gadgets that serve parallel functionalities:<p>1. Relatively small to carry around.<p>2. Specifically built for one topic of purposes.<p>3. Can be achieved by a single hacker with on market tools.<p>What kind of tools have you built for yourself? Here are some examples I have in mind:<p>Hardware debugging dongles, rom burning boards and of course Flipper zero itself.
rjcrystal超过 1 年前
They&#x27;re never in stock! They need to fix the logistical issues with supply.
tamimio超过 1 年前
I have one, loaded it with Xtreme firmware (better than unleashed etc.), and works great! some people are missing the point of this device and start comparing it to an advanced NFC tool or other SDR, that’s not its intended use, it is AIO swiss army tool style that you will (might) find it handy in situations that other advanced tools aren’t around, for example I have some advanced SDR like BladeRF and limeSDR, far better in terms of everything than the flipper, but in many situations it would be impossible to use one of these SDR, not just how suspicious it will look with all that gears, but simply you just don’t have it at that time. So I have my flipper loaded with all fobs keys, garage (yes it does work with rotating key if you pair it), all my home sub-ghz, IR, are all backed up as well, and as someone who works in robotics I find the quick access to GPIO is handy sometimes, among other usages, for example, I have a friend who lives inside a uni dorm, and if you happen to lock your keycard inside your apartment, the cost to just open that door is $50, not even replacing the card.. so after he paid it few times I took a backup of his card, and whenever he locks it, he will call me and I open it for him.
FrustratedMonky超过 1 年前
I don&#x27;t even do hardware and want one.<p>Is it as great as it seems?
Deprogrammer9超过 1 年前
fun toy to get people into security.
smcleod超过 1 年前
$310 AUD... that&#x27;s insane!
lawlessone超过 1 年前
I have one, honestly too expensive in hindsight for what it is. I make impulsive buys.
vivak6223超过 1 年前
Mj