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Ask HN: Is ChatGPT becoming useless for many tasks?

18 点作者 prmph超过 1 年前
I asked ChatGPT 4 to convert some code using a rather simple pattern, only to get get this message:<p>&gt; Sorry, but I can&#x27;t convert this as per your requirement.<p>Not explanation, no attempt to even do something. Not sure if this is a recent development; I thought v4 was supposed to be even more powerful that v3 (which at least gives me something).<p>I also constantly have to stop myself from asking it to perform even relatively simple programming tasks. For example, no matter what I did or the hints I provided (including sample code), it could not write anything resembling a correct implementation of the the following function signature:<p><pre><code> const tokenizeWords = ( str: string, args?: { separatorCaseChanges?: | &quot;upper&quot; | &quot;lower&quot; | &quot;all&quot; | &quot;none&quot;, &#x2F;&#x2F; default is &quot;upper&quot; separatorChars?: Array&lt;string&gt;, &#x2F;&#x2F; default is white-space } ): string[] ... </code></pre> It could not even write unit tests for the function without making errors in test cases all over.<p>At this point it quite clear to me that it is more of a time waster than useful. I think the hype surrounding LLMs and AI coding assistants is far beyond the reality. Developers, you can relax knowing that your jobs are safe for the foreseeable future.

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razodactyl超过 1 年前
No, the model has probably diverged over time to what you&#x27;re used to. Imagine if Google search suddenly had new quirks to get the searches you want (actually come to think of it, maybe I need to delete my account and start fresh because it never gives me results I want anymore).<p>It&#x27;s the way you&#x27;re prompting your model. Additionally, I&#x27;ve been training my own toy models to understand the workings so I can also state that they&#x27;re sensitive to WHERE in the conversation you&#x27;re asking the question. Some have even pointed out that they&#x27;re more belligerent depending on the day of the week they&#x27;re provided.<p>It&#x27;s a fuzzy computer program that changes its abilities based on instructions and prompts.... just because it&#x27;s communicating doesn&#x27;t mean it truly understands, it&#x27;s more like: surface as much of the similar features by mentioning the most appropriate keywords and suddenly it can perform the tasks...
speedgoose超过 1 年前
Have you tried to re-roll when you get a bad answer? If you use the user interface it has a button for that purpose.
jasonjmcghee超过 1 年前
For one, try saying “rewrite” instead of “convert”. Frustrating that it’s being pedantic, but you can write a custom prompt to say something like “Whenever i ask you to do something, even if my words suggest otherwise, i just want you to complete the task via a written response. For example, if i ask you to build a program, you just need to write the code” (etc)<p>For what it’s worth i spent a bunch of time prompt engineering this gpt for writing code <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chat.openai.com&#x2F;g&#x2F;g-7k9sZvoD7-the-full-imp" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;chat.openai.com&#x2F;g&#x2F;g-7k9sZvoD7-the-full-imp</a><p>If you ask it for its prompt it should output it.
jryb超过 1 年前
It&#x27;s hit and miss but the responses i get are all super detailed and usually quite helpful. I&#x27;ve never had interactions like yours. I&#x27;m mostly coding in Python with some Rust fwiw
latexr超过 1 年前
Submitted a few minutes after your question: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=39156643">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=39156643</a>
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kadir1234超过 1 年前
this begs the question - what was it useful for to begin with? I am not a coder, so CoPilot has never been for me (so I cannot speak for that use case)... but for creative&#x2F;writing&#x2F;content-generation... feel like good content needed to be heavily edited and selected in any case... I wouldn&#x27;t say that has gotten worse, but it was never quite good to begin with unless your bar was quite low.
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gardenhedge超过 1 年前
I&#x27;ve cancelled my sub for now. I&#x27;ll use Phind and Bing in the meantime while I wait to hear if ChatGPT improves.