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Remote work morphs into elite status symbol for wealthy, college-educated

33 点作者 BerislavLopac超过 1 年前

30 条评论

lucidguppy超过 1 年前
Is this supposed to make remoters feel guilty?<p>Go away...<p>If corporate wanted to reduce the desire for remote - they would have smaller satellite campuses outside the great automobile slums of America.<p>The wealthy don&#x27;t care about efficiency, they aren&#x27;t being rational about this.<p>They go into the office - see an empty building and say &quot;this is wrong&quot;.<p>But they put the cart before the horse - they should say &quot;why is my company operating just fine without office space?&quot; - that should say something about how horrible open offices are for productivity.<p>The intangibles that come with in-office work could be addressed by augmented reality meetings (a headset costs a lot less than a year of gasoline).<p>The ONLY problem I see that isn&#x27;t addressed with remote work is junior development. This again could be addressed by much smaller campuses and augmented reality.
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marricks超过 1 年前
A friend who does clerical work and makes less than half of my programmer wage is getting forced into office by a boss who reads trash like this.<p>After the dust settles from this I bet there will be studies showing lower wage workers were forced into the office just as much if not more than higher paid counter parts.<p>While she’s fighting to stay remote my job has absolutely no risk of that, same with my coworkers companies we work with.
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crotchfire超过 1 年前
This is going to shock people, but remote work was very common for blue-collar workers in the 1800s:<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Putting-out_system" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;en.wikipedia.org&#x2F;wiki&#x2F;Putting-out_system</a>
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schuyler2d超过 1 年前
As a programmer, when I was on the job market two years ago, even though I&#x27;d actually prefer to be local in-person so I could hang out with colleagues, I realized it would be a red flag for any software dev team that wasn&#x27;t remote by now.<p>What kind of brain-dead culturally frozen and fragile org, post-covid, would resist or be incapable of managing a remote team at this point?
pizzafeelsright超过 1 年前
I love working from home. So blessed. Quit my good job to go 30% less money just so I could stay remote.<p>It is elite because I don&#x27;t have to commute.<p>I&#x27;m wealthy now in time and proximity.
pavlov超过 1 年前
Remote work always was a luxury for those with enough status in the workplace to feel confident not being seen at the office.
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mg超过 1 年前
Yesterday, in Microsofts earnings report, a number that stood out to me was their quarterly Linkedin revenue of $4B.<p>That revenue probably mostly comes from the old school hiring process where employer and employee get to know each other and then jump into a long term contract, right?<p>I&#x27;m surprised Upwork and Fiverr are still so small in comparison. Their model of letting people quickly band and disband on projects seems so much more natural to me in the times of remote work.
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ubermonkey超过 1 年前
All this is so weird to me -- or, rather, it points out how weird my career has been.<p>I&#x27;m 53. I&#x27;ve worked at home since 2001, but it happened kinda accidentally. The dot-com-era software consultancy&#x2F;internet studio I worked for in the late 90s cratered in the fall of 2001, so I hung out my shingle and went back to doing hands-on technical work. This was catch-as-catch-can for a while, but I kept the lights on -- and at no point did I consider renting an office to do it.<p>Then I joined a startup that didn&#x27;t really take off, and we BRIEFLY had an office before realizing it was dumb and giving it up (so, like, 4-6 months?). We were traveling all the time anyway.<p>Then I went back to consulting and worked at home or on the road.<p>Then I joined my current employer, which has NEVER had an office anywhere, and as such had employees spread nationwide. We used to be cagey about it with customers (who are generally large traditional companies), but since COVID normalized WFH we&#x27;ve been much more open about it.<p>I miss very few things about an office. When I think about it, what I actually miss isn&#x27;t the office, but the few moments in my early career where the office was also a place generally full of people whose company I enjoyed even external to the working relationship. That&#x27;s an unusual thing, and (I bet) something you&#x27;re more likely to experience in your 20s than your 50s.<p>I would like to see my boss more often. It&#x27;s been a couple years now. I haven&#x27;t seen our VP of SW in person in probably 10 years. But my home office comes with cats, a better coffee machine than any in-person office has, a kitchen I can cook lunch in, and a couch if I want to catch a short nap.
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antipaul超过 1 年前
Maybe companies should lift a finger to create work spaces that, well, work?
spking超过 1 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;osPFP" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;archive.ph&#x2F;osPFP</a>
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allium超过 1 年前
This is just an attempt to pit workers against other workers, both to make lower-proles hate WFH upper-proles (“middle class”) and to pit the upper-proles on notice that RTO will come for them if they don’t shape up. Do not fall for it. The real enemy is up top and always has been.<p>Anyway, RTO is more about fucking over people with disabilities—for unclear reason, because accommodated disabled people are, in my experience, the best people to work with, because they’ve seen real shit—and this attempt to create intra-proletarian dissension is just a distraction, at the end of the day.
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goalieca超过 1 年前
The office used to also be a status symbol. Ever seen a waterfront tech office with glass walls and ping-pong tables?
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walthamstow超过 1 年前
&gt; Just a few years after most knowledge workers shifted to remote work, it’s now mostly wealthy, college-educated employees who are still being allowed to work from home<p>What job does a poor, uneducated knowledge worker do?
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Uptrenda超过 1 年前
Yep, here&#x27;s some awesome perks of being remote too:<p>1. never knowing anyone on a personal level in the company (no matter how long you&#x27;ve been there)<p>2. being perceived as a sub-human disposable &#x27;resource&#x27;<p>3. never being promoted<p>4. often hired as contractors without same benefits as employees<p>offering people remote jobs is done as much for cutting costs as it is to access more talent. you don&#x27;t have to spend as much money when they provide everything themselves.
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nicomeemes超过 1 年前
Lol - this from Fortune magazine. I swear I see a steady stream of these hit pieces from Fortune, WSJ, etc. Go away!
glimshe超过 1 年前
Let me have my status symbol, it&#x27;s at least more earth-friendly than driving a F-150 or Mercedes around town.
legitster超过 1 年前
I mean, they are not wrong!<p>I moved out into the country into a more blue collar area. On the coast, I was a nobody. But out here my income alone sets me apart. I inhabit many of the same social spaces in town as the doctors and lawyers. And even they don&#x27;t get to work from home! Even amongst the elite its a luxury.<p>It&#x27;s awesome - I&#x27;m not going to go back into an office anytime soon. But I am completely clear-eyed that it is a unique privilege. It&#x27;s hard to act entitled about it knowing there is absolutely no one in my circle who would give me a shoulder to cry on.
082349872349872超过 1 年前
&quot;college-educated&quot;, in the US context, is a long way from &quot;elite&quot;<p>&quot;Some college&quot; is now ~60% of the population (closer to 2&#x2F;3 in recent generations), so a similar characterisation on the wealth axis would be households with USD 100k or more in (pre-tax!) assets; holding the equivalent of a few cars or a small condo also does not strike me as being very &quot;elite&quot;.<p>(in short, it would appear that &quot;elite&quot; in US discourse has become as meaning-free as &quot;middle-class&quot;)
303uru超过 1 年前
Happily Elite here then. I love that we&#x27;ve all been gaslit into thinking Elite is something to be ashamed of. Real be proud to be average vibes. I&#x27;m surprised no one is calling remote work Woke yet.
MattGaiser超过 1 年前
This was a complaint during the pandemic too, so I am not sure much has changed.<p>Only knowledge jobs generally can work remotely. Robotic avatars are a long ways away for the other jobs.
spacecadet超过 1 年前
gross thinking! a huge chunk of the workforce has always been &quot;remote&quot; or does not&#x2F;never did report directly to a corporate overlord and their pit...
bloqs超过 1 年前
This is not new. Being away from the office AFTER establishing your presence at critical stages and making your face known reads as &quot;busy and productive&quot;.
shrimp_emoji超过 1 年前
So college degrees were worth it after all. ;D
ajsnigrutin超过 1 年前
So... people who do intellectual work and only need a desk, chair and a computer?<p>I mean... it would be pretty hard for a plumber, electrician, construction worker, etc. to work from home.
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borplk超过 1 年前
&quot;elite status symbol for wealthy&quot; don&#x27;t work! :))
mouzogu超过 1 年前
what remote jobs....<p>&gt; &quot;One thing appears to become clear: The chasm between the sectors in the workforce is likely to only get wider.&quot;<p>thats the real subtext here. and i agree.
lawgimenez超过 1 年前
It seems like the author has run out of topics to write.
tennisflyi超过 1 年前
Always has
yardie超过 1 年前
Remote work is ... a bargaining tool for people who prefer to work remotely, and it doesn&#x27;t matter what socioeconomic class you&#x27;re in.<p>CRE funds are so determined to get employees back into the office (while their asset class implodes) that they&#x27;ll sponsor any piece of journalism that will help toe the line. Since last year it&#x27;s been a steady drumbeat of articles claiming remote work is over or is &quot;bad&quot; for morale. And the data doesn&#x27;t seem to line up.
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lloydatkinson超过 1 年前
No it does not. This is another hit piece from the elites worried about office space and buildings.
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