I just had to clean a windoze machine of spyware.<p>One that was running a fully paid version of kaspersky.<p>With a combination of malwarebytes and spybot, I was able to remove a shit-ton of stuff that kaspersky was ignoring. There is probably loads still on there however, but at least it runs now.<p>Will be reinstalling it with linux mint and a de-networked windoze sometime next week.<p>That said, the apple culture is probably far too overconfident on this stuff, as is the linux culture. Because the architecture is better, I think that people come to rely on it too much and forget a lot of good practice.