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Best Rain Jackets in the World Will Soon Be Illegal

49 点作者 the-mitr大约 1 年前

10 条评论

blahedo大约 1 年前
This line, buried deep in the article, is what completely boggles my mind:<p>&gt; <i>We tell customers to wash their outerwear, regardless of whether it has PFAS or not, after every three to five significant uses and to re-waterproof every three to five washes.</i><p>Their <i>outerwear</i>? So we&#x27;re not talking about inner layers here. All of them? <i>Every three to five uses??</i> I have jackets and coats that are decades old, in active (seasonal) use for the whole time, that I have <i>never</i> washed. Is this unusual? How would you even wash them? For some of them, it seems like just throwing them in a washing machine would damage the surface layers, make the lining lumpy, shrink them, or do some other problematic thing to them.
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johnnykree大约 1 年前
They aren’t the best in the first place. Goretex, most famous brand, isn’t that great at all. It will loose its water repellent power very quick. The membrane will die within 2-6 years. You will have to reapply PFA constantly. On the other side wax is used since decades and it works and you can just reapply it by rubbing it into the cloth and ironing.
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crq-yml大约 1 年前
Having recently discarded one that was gifted a few years ago, I can say that the &quot;best&quot; rain jackets are essentially Formula 1 supercars. They have low lifespans by design; even if you are careful with reapplying the magic reconditioning formula, you will still sweat on it. Eventually the tape covering the interior seams will get wet. Then moisture gets trapped under the tape, and at that point it&#x27;s just a moldy windshell.<p>In contrast a simple leather jacket or rain poncho is fine for everyday &quot;it&#x27;s a little rainy&quot; or &quot;it&#x27;s <i>really</i> rainy&quot; scenarios. If you are using the ultralights effectively, it&#x27;s probably in a sportive context where you are going to use it just for that sport, for a few seasons.
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dieselgate大约 1 年前
Interesting. Guess it’s good if it will help reduce “forever chemicals” in the long run.<p>I’ve never found a rain jacket that holds up to extended downpours other than the “rubbery” type materials. Spend a fair amount of time doing yard work etc with cheap no-name rubbery pant and jacket in extended rain without being soaked through.<p>Not sure what the chemical composition of these entail though.<p>The article mentions using waxes as an alternative and historically think people wax&#x2F;oil leather to be water-repellant. It probably works well but is heavy etc
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throwawaaarrgh大约 1 年前
Fwiw, for being outside in extended downpours, the best rain coverings are short ponchos and rain skirts. You stay dry but there&#x27;s plenty of ventilation so you never get sweaty. I make them out of garbage bags. Only costs a few pennies, and is the most packable covering. Can even make gaiters. It&#x27;ll never catch on because it&#x27;s not fashionable, but that&#x27;s fine with me.
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fnordpiglet大约 1 年前
Most of the waterproofing in jackets comes from ePTFE, which while fluorine is in it, is not dangerous at all. There are other PFCs that go into Goretex that are of concern, but to my understanding all were eliminated in the production of goretex in 2023. To my understanding there’s no remaining reason to worry about ePTFE based jackets made from Goretex either in its use, degradation over time, or its production.
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computerfriend大约 1 年前
Electrospun polyurethane is the future of waterproof, breathable jackets and GoreTex is a marketing thing.
Havoc大约 1 年前
They’re going to have to find a substitute.<p>People will just keep finding a way around the ban if there is no viable alternative
sixhobbits大约 1 年前
This has been a repeated headline for a while, but it&#x27;s still clickbait IMO. The jackets will not &#x27;be illegal&#x27;. Rather so-called forever chemicals are being regulated. The article it links to to cite &#x27;illegal&#x27; says that analysts think that policy makers are considering new policy..<p>&gt; Safer States’ 2024 analysis of anticipated state legislation addressing toxic chemicals and plastics across the country, suggests that PFAS “forever chemicals” could be banned in more uses than ever in 2024 state bills. Overall, at least 36 states will consider more than 450 bills on toxic chemical and plastics related policies. The analysis further finds that banning “forever chemicals” will continue to dominate in 2024, with at least 35 states introducing policies. Other significant legislation anticipated for 2024 will address toxic plastics, safe drinking water, and hazardous chemicals in cosmetics and personal care products.<p>Overall I wouldn&#x27;t be surprised if Goretex and co PR teams aren&#x27;t deliberately writing and spreading articles like these - it probably leads to a big jump in sales each time one goes around.
adamredwoods大约 1 年前
I believe in human ingenuity. We got this far, I&#x27;m confident we can find suitable substitutes for a safer future.
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