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The Reddits

463 点作者 sandslash大约 1 年前

95 条评论

superdisk大约 1 年前
A few years ago I sent a message to spez on Reddit asking if he&#x27;d ever open source the original Lisp version of Reddit. He actually responded and said he couldn&#x27;t find it, but then a while later it was indeed released. I like to think maybe I contributed to the butterfly effect of that happening.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;reddit-archive&#x2F;reddit1.0">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;reddit-archive&#x2F;reddit1.0</a>
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exreddit大约 1 年前
Figured I&#x27;d share this since its comp info you don&#x27;t normally see. A lot of people made a lot of money today. I got 150,000 options for Reddit very early after it was spun out. With today&#x27;s price, that&#x27;s $7.5M, but I didn&#x27;t get all 4 years of vesting, the pay was below-average, and my money was tied up. During the same decade, the faangs were up 12x on average, but the pay was better, and my money would have been liquid. Reddit might not hold up for 6 months, either.
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diggan大约 1 年前
&gt; Reddit the site (and now app) is such a fundamentally useful thing that it&#x27;s almost unkillable.<p>Looking forward to see how true this is. The communities I used to frequent, have maybe 20% of the activity they used to, before the API fiasco, even though they&#x27;re &quot;back online&quot;. I also stopped using reddit on the phone after my chosen reddit client was closed down (which I&#x27;m grateful for, thanks reddit).<p>My reddit activity probably dropped way below half compared to before, as the communities I used to be in are now shells of their former glory.
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nazgulsenpai大约 1 年前
&gt; Aaron was younger, a college freshman, and even more anti-authority than Steve. It&#x27;s not exaggerating to describe him as a martyr for what authority later did to him.<p>I started reading this cynically curious if Aaron would even be mentioned, but well said.
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8ig8大约 1 年前
I came to Reddit via Alien Blue and stayed via Apollo. Now I check a few subs periodically in a browser, but my usage has drastically dropped without Apollo.
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rideontime大约 1 年前
&gt; when Steve came back in 2015, I knew the world was in for a surprise.<p>&gt; If Reddit could grow to the size it had with management that was harmless at best, what could it do if Steve came back? We now know the answer to that question. Or at least a lower bound on the answer. Steve is not out of ideas yet.<p>Does anybody know what &quot;ideas&quot; he&#x27;s talking about? When I think back to recent developments at Reddit, all that comes to mind is the 3rd-party app fiasco and the &quot;collectible avatars&quot; and &quot;Moons&quot;&#x2F;&quot;community points&quot; nobody but crypto speculators wanted anything to do with (and are now dead). Oh, and the death of celebrity AMAs after they fired Victoria.
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jdprgm大约 1 年前
While I still use Reddit often I kind of hope this marks the decline and something new emerges. Pretty much anything and everything their army of devs have built over the past 5+ years has been anti user. I can&#x27;t even remember the last time a positive new feature was added. (This also kind of feels broadly true for the majority of the consumer apps in recent years -- remember the 2010&#x27;s when devs actually added new features for users to apps on a regular basis?)<p>There are countless things I assumed would have been fixed years and years ago that never have been. For example the trash search engine where you are better off using google with site:reddit.com. I do wonder if it&#x27;s incompetence or intentional.<p>Would love to see something in a vein similar to what BlueSky is attempting with twitter clone for reddit. Have a lot of ideas in this area lately.
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ChrisArchitect大约 1 年前
It&#x27;s not fundamental, it&#x27;s a glorified forum host, not to say that isn&#x27;t immensely useful in the current landscape. But it&#x27;s also very much a result of timing that it is still here.<p>The history is often overlooked: when digg imploded&#x2F;shot itself in the foot, Reddit was in the right place at the right time and got lucky. Somewhere for the exodus to go to. Reddit itself was failing fast and on its last legs at the time held afloat by its core users and that&#x27;s it. They didn&#x27;t know what they were going to do and rather than being visionaries in any way really they got lucky hosting everyone with a slew of very standard web 2.0 features. And as with any social site, it&#x27;s the userbase&#x2F;community that pulls it thru darkness to the where it is now.
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aragonite大约 1 年前
&gt; Their idea was bad though. And since we thought then that we were funding ideas rather than founders, we rejected them<p>&gt; ... we wanted to fund Steve and Alexis, so if their idea was bad, they&#x27;d have to work on something else<p>&gt; There needed to be something like del.icio.us&#x2F;popular, but designed for sharing links instead of being a byproduct of saving them. So I called Steve and Alexis and said that we liked them, just not their idea, so we&#x27;d fund them if they&#x27;d work on something else.<p>So PG is saying the seminal idea behind Reddit wasn&#x27;t even conceived by the original founders? If so, it&#x27;s not clear to me the post&#x27;s concluding sentence (&#x27;Steve is not out of ideas yet&#x27;) offers much solace.<p>But I disagree that the idea responsible for Reddit&#x27;s success is link-sharing. I think Reddit&#x27;s success has a lot more to do with the ease of creating a dedicated discussion forum for any given topic simply by navigating to `reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;[topic]`. Wikipedia already uses this approach for article creation, but there wasn&#x27;t anything like that for discussion forums (in the US at least[1])<p>[1] Baidu Tieba preceded Reddit by 2 years, and Reddit is commonly referred to in China as the &#x27;American Tieba&#x27; (e.g.: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;finance.sina.com.cn&#x2F;roll&#x2F;2024-03-21&#x2F;doc-inapaxhk7062547.shtml" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;finance.sina.com.cn&#x2F;roll&#x2F;2024-03-21&#x2F;doc-inapaxhk7062...</a>)
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noobermin大约 1 年前
This story really drives home how being in the right place at the right time really makes a difference. They essentially made iteration 1 in three weeks and that set them down the path to success. May be the landscape has changed then but I cannot for the life of me imagine anything that could be made in three weeks today and have the effect that reddit had on the internet and the founder&#x27;s lives. If there&#x27;s reddit&#x2F;uber&#x2F;instagram for x&#x2F;y&#x2F;z it&#x27;s already been done or someone with deeper pockets than you is doing it already. The current centre of attention (deserved or not) is Gen AI which is built on decades of hard research and very expensive compute. Start-ups still pop up but nothing like spin up a random site in three weeks and change the world.
observationist大约 1 年前
You can incrementally delete your posts and interactions while backing them up. Once done, you can request your user data to verify that deletion has taken place, and then cancel the account.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;j0be&#x2F;PowerDeleteSuite">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;github.com&#x2F;j0be&#x2F;PowerDeleteSuite</a> , this and other tools make it easy to manage.<p>Reddit has hamfistedly broken whatever value it once had as a platform for long form discussion, with the interesting and valuable fringe, hobbyist, and obscure niche forums having been banned or moderated into inane milquetoast. Now, its value seems primarily as a customer support resource for companies outside the US, or as a platform for attracting clicks on other platforms.<p>Reddit&#x27;s going the way of MySpace. Unless you like burning money, this IPO is one to skip. All the things that made Reddit great, once, are gone now. There are no compelling reasons to use it; it&#x27;s slow, intrusive, disrespectful to user privacy, performatively moralizing and preachy, caters to the worst sort of moderation and curation power dynamics, and serves no relevant purpose in the ecosystem of the modern internet. The best and only value of Reddit comes from older archives of scraped content now used as training data for AI.
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vundercind大约 1 年前
&gt; There needed to be something like del.icio.us&#x2F;popular, but designed for sharing links instead of being a byproduct of saving them.<p>Weird comparison—user-submitted-link-aggregator-forum-combo was well-trod ground by 2005. Fark was founded in ‘99 and wasn’t the first. Slashdot, kinda, though with more gatekeeping. Kuro5hin. Tons of them. This framing makes it seem like a new idea, like there were lists of links but nobody had thought to attach forums to them yet, but they very much had.<p>[edit] oh man, yeah, another post mentions 4chan and pals. The framing of this as if we had peanut butter and bread but nobody had noticed we might be able to make a peanut butter sandwich gets stranger the more I think about it.
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ChildOfChaos大约 1 年前
Reddit is kinda trash these days, more rubbish is added to it when all that matters is the core functionality.<p>However with growth, it&#x27;s just full of idiots, you go to any subreddit for something that you are interested in and it&#x27;s just a toxic mess. I&#x27;ve jumped into subreddits for a particular brand&#x2F;person before that I hadn&#x27;t heard about recently or that I enjoyed some output from them, only to find that the people on such subreddits spend there entire time ripping such thing apart 24&#x2F;7, why even subscribe to that subreddit, if you hate that thing?<p>There are subreddits for a lot of things that I enjoy, but as I have gotten older, it&#x27;s become an issue that most of the users are kids and therefore don&#x27;t know what the hell they are talking about, I wouldn&#x27;t have such conversations with such people in real life, but the issue with Reddit is I have no idea who these people are.<p>Reddit certainly has the potential to be one of the most interesting places on the internet to me, connecting you to all sorts of interesting things and ideas, but it&#x27;s more and more just becoming a toxic cesspool.
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mikewarot大约 1 年前
I remember Reddit. It used to be a great place to meet others with the same niche interests. It&#x27;s a shame they self immolated.<p>My only regret is that I didn&#x27;t remove all of my comments before deleting my account.<p>I&#x27;ll never forgive them.
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thepasswordis大约 1 年前
Did anybody else get offered the “directed shares”? Seems so freaking scammy to ask your users to provide you with your exit liquidity.<p>I’m talking about this: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2024&#x2F;02&#x2F;22&#x2F;reddit-will-let-users-buy-its-ipo-but-warns-that-they-could-make-the-stock-riskier.html" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.cnbc.com&#x2F;2024&#x2F;02&#x2F;22&#x2F;reddit-will-let-users-buy-it...</a>
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shawabawa3大约 1 年前
&gt; They told me about the startup idea we&#x27;d later fund them to drop: a way to order fast food on your cellphone.<p>&gt; So it was not going to happen. It still doesn&#x27;t exist, 19 years later.<p>Weird take. Doordash&#x2F;Uber eats&#x2F;deliveroo are huge companies and it&#x27;s absolutely the same idea they had, they just had it too early
preommr大约 1 年前
&gt; But Reddit was special, and when Steve came back in 2015, I knew the world was in for a surprise.<p>It was certainly a surprise that he thought it was a good idea to edit a user&#x27;s comment as a form of trolling when he&#x27;s the ceo.
FactKnower69大约 1 年前
Cute revisionist puff piece about Steve Huffman, moderator of r&#x2F;Jailbait
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rybosworld大约 1 年前
Reddit has severely damaged their reputation recently, and usage has dropped.<p>I&#x27;m pretty sure the article is just an attempt at revising history in front of the IPO.
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greenthrow大约 1 年前
This is so detatched from reality it borders on lying. People went to Reddit over Slashdot not because news there was &quot;faster&quot; (it never, ever was) but because Reddit had and has porn. Slashdot never did.<p>In fact, the biggest innovation of Reddit vs Digg and Slashdot before it, isn&#x27;t mentioned here at all; you could create and moderate your own communities on Reddit. I guess that is hard to square with Reddit seizing control of so many communities in recent years.<p>This also completely ignores the fake traffic and posts that the Reddit founders admitted to in the early days and certainly seems to be going on still today. Most subreddits seem to be a shadow of there former selves and feel like ghost towns. The front page and &#x2F;r&#x2F;all clearly have the books cooked on what appears there. Brand friendly posts jump up with barely any votes. One or two posts from popular subreddits almost seem to be chosen daily to appear there.
annexrichmond大约 1 年前
A bit of a rant, but I find it hard to believe pg goes on reddit much if this is how he feels.<p>I remember years ago reddit was a lot more like HN. The comment section (even for the main subs) was much more intellectual and critical.<p>People appeared to actually read posted articles. It was a thing where people would read the comment section before the article because everyone knew headlines were generally clickbait, and you could rely on some internet stranger to have analyzed the article and demonstrate the headline wasn&#x27;t all as it seemed.<p>But now it seems that no one reads the articles at all or care for any sort of discourse with people with different opinions. Comments are filled with just jabs and pitchforks. No different than comment sections on news sites. Yet Redditors still seem to have the arrogance that it had developed over the years that their communities are better than those sites. And well, they used to be, but now they&#x27;re just as bad.
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badgers大约 1 年前
I remember Digg being more popular than Reddit more than a decade ago. What happened that caused Reddit to succeed where Digg failed?
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Max-Ganz-II大约 1 年前
My account on Reddit, and so as I am the founder also the sub r&#x2F;AmazonRedshift, on 2023-09-30 looked to have been banned by an automated system.<p>The sub appeared to be working normally, I posted about the Amazon Redshift Serverless PDF, and then Reddit began behaving oddly.<p>After some investigation, and some guesswork, I concluded my account had been silently shadow-banned, and the sub banned (and then shortly after, deleted).<p>(Shadow-banning means when you log in as yourself, you see all your posts, and you see them in the threads where they were made. If you view Reddit when logged out, you then see all your posts have been deleted.)<p>Two years of posts and the sub disappeared, instantly, abruptly, without warning, reason, appeal process or notification, and Reddit is trying to lead me into thinking my account is still active. Make of that what you will.<p>Having had that experience, I concluded Reddit is not a safe place to invest time in.
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Havoc大约 1 年前
Strange article. Is this an attempt to drum up enthusiasm pre ipo?
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keiferski大约 1 年前
It&#x27;s very weird that for as many problems as Reddit has, there doesn&#x27;t seem to be any serious VC-funded competition. Why is that? Every other social site has a half dozen well-capitalized competitors. Is it because Twitter&#x2F;X and TikTok occupy all of the social media attention? Or because a forum is filled with mostly young people simply isn&#x27;t a scalable business?
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apercu大约 1 年前
What I don&#x27;t understand is the compensation. It is multiples and multiples of anything any similar company pays, albeit complicated by the fact that most similar companies are public and while CEO pay might _only_ be limited to a few million annually, there&#x27;s usually millions in stock grants.<p>I wonder if that was his play, but, again, it should have been equity. I don&#x27;t care who you are, the odds of you having an impact versus someone else to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars a year are miniscule. Good for you if you get to join the club, I guess. But if we have learned anything the last few decades (Musk, Welch, Fiorina, Schwartz, Lay, Ebbers) is that the louder they are the more likely they believe their own legend and screw up. We don&#x27;t like Jobs around here, but he&#x27;s maybe the last CEO that was probably worth the hundreds of millions&#x2F;billions. My perspective (due to my job) is probably different than a lot of peoples, I see leadership failures all day every day.
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relaunched大约 1 年前
This article understates how big the content discovery problem was on the web, at those times. Delicious, Digg, Stumbleupon, Reddit and a million others.<p>Reddit is the Craigslist of content discovery, in so many ways.
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bilekas大约 1 年前
A really good idea, that had an honest to the user direction originally, it seems the natural progression towards making financial sense for people who got involved unfortunately has pushed some of the communities away from it a bit.<p>It would be good to go back to a real user driven approach instead of &quot;user driven, when values and priorities are in-line&quot;.<p>I&#x27;ve had many memorable years there, but after leaving I haven&#x27;t felt I am missing anything special anymore. It&#x27;s a lot of recycled content, bot heavy, power drunk mods.. I&#x27;ll cross my fingers for an improvement but not so confident.
dom96大约 1 年前
Reddit banned my account without warning because I created a Reddit API mirror. I even followed their API docs by including my Reddit username in the user agent used by my HTTP client, I thought I was giving them the ability to reach out if the mirror was causing them pain but nah, they just banned me.<p>It was at that point that I realised all the protests that were happening weren’t going to go nowhere, and indeed that is what happened. Reddit has lost its way ever in a major way in the pursuit of profit.
wraptile大约 1 年前
Reddit still makes me incredibly sad. I loved it. I was there for the first secret santa exchange and all of the historic events and it was amazing. It trully was a unique community and platform. Now it has been completely destroyed. Sadness.
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cdme大约 1 年前
Reddit going public meant reclaiming value they provided for &quot;free&quot; for users. The platform will only get worse for users as they try and claw their way to profitability.
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dpflan大约 1 年前
Why is now the time for a reddit IPO? Is it because of the idea that &quot;data is oil&quot;, and reddit can sell enterprise subscriptions to access to its data? Someone who has reviewed the S-1, how are they making money? And what&#x27;s the point of the IPO, deploy more capital to accomplish what?
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LispSporks22大约 1 年前
&gt; it&#x27;s almost unkillable.<p>Kills my iPhone XS Max daily though.<p>The navigation is completely broken as well. Some things don’t close, back button might or might not work, never seems to remember where I was before, frequently rescrolling stuff.<p>This is all after ad blocking.<p>Without it, endless spam of embedded ads distracting me, wasting my time. Janky loading, page hangs on clicks.<p>I’m not sure wtf their engineering team is doing but the site’s basically broken. Maybe it’s the normal state of things. Before I was using some third party app that was working great until Reddit killed api access.<p>My usage of it has dropped as well. It’s just unpleasant to use now.
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concordDance大约 1 年前
&gt; Reddit has a certain personality — curious, skeptical, ready to be amused — and that personality is Steve&#x27;s.<p>This really does not match my experience of the site. Citations are vanishingly rare and myths get repeated endlessly.
thepasswordis大约 1 年前
This thread is so sad. Reddit was a big important part of the internet for like 15 years. People used to do massive Reddit meetups all the time back around 2010, and some of them were really fun. I still have some very close, family like friends that I met at those meetups.<p>But now? Almost every comment here talks about how much they hate it. I honestly agree with the hate, and again that’s really sad to me.<p>I truly think it’s the moderators that destroyed it. Reddit didn’t do a good job of defining their roles, and they power tripped their way into community destroying behavior.<p>Half the people I know who used to run and attend meetups for my city’s subreddit are now banned from even participating in it, always from some stupid petty fight the moderators had with them[1]. It makes me wonder what types of people are still posting there?<p>[1] there was a big push a while ago to replace the community mods with people who do “social media” professionally. The old mods that live in my city and people know got semi-threatened with doxxing (hey nice job you have there do they know your Reddit account?) and removed themselves to be replaced by “professionals”. Such pathetic internet drama.<p>Anyway: we all collectively pour one out for the Reddit that once was. It can go to internet heaven with fark, slashdot, digg, stumbleupon, delicious, etc.
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ineedaj0b大约 1 年前
I find Reddit to be wayyy too political for one side (that’s usually how clustering works) but without another guiding interest -like Tech here- it consumes and spreads to everything.<p>The admin are kinder to banning the opposing Red team people who congregate there. I don’t mind this, but it selects for annoying people.<p>This is further confusing when the site has many European users who are not even aware of the US political game.<p>(look at the frontpage any day, it’s all Blue tribe with maybe 3-4 neutral animal posts. Why can’t it be 20 neutral things with 3-4 political posts?)
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reagan83大约 1 年前
Paulg taking a victory lap in really odd fashion: telling a couple of kids what he wanted them to build, saying he predicted ordering fast food on your cellphones was a bad idea and still can’t be done today (DoorDash?). This whole write-up seems off.
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testacpwoek大约 1 年前
The people who cultivate Reddit communities are not the owners of Reddit, or the paid engineers of Reddit. Reddit isn&#x27;t good because of Steve, or any of its leaders, the good and bad parts alike are 100% because of its users and unpaid moderators. Reddit is a tool, and the users have used the tool to create a massive site that contains a gigantic variety of subcultures, including ones that hate each other.<p>Any &quot;innovations&quot; Reddit has made in the past decade have been making the UI worse and borderline unusable in poor attempts to monetize the site. It offers video hosting that it does poorly, an &quot;improved UI&quot; that it does poorly, chat that it does poorly, some nebulous web3 things that it also did poorly, and now is going to pretend that using Reddit as a training set won&#x27;t result in a very unskilled, and exceedingly confident of its own correctness, chatbot. Spez has no vision for Reddit, and clearly neither does Paul. The way to make Reddit great is to empower the communities and moderators, and instead Reddit has done the opposite, because - let&#x27;s be real here - Steve Huffman doesn&#x27;t want to create a cool website or a useful tool, he wants to IPO and become a billionaire and ride off into the sunset.
nashashmi大约 1 年前
Amazing that reddit hits $54 from a ipo of 34$ and all I see on HN is negativity … about how it doesn&#x27;t make money … about how it has a bad user experience … about how it doesn’t credit the mods … about how it hurt the third party developers.<p>Yada yada yada. Look if anything you should learn from this, its this. User experience doesn&#x27;t have to be terrific. API after a good growth trajectory is less advantageous. There are no competitions for moderators because moderators are a dime a dozen. And you don’t have to make money if you’re growing or are a game changer (wallstreetbets).<p>You just have to be here for the long run. The run when digg failed. The run when twitter went all the way into the hole. The run when facebook becomes friendster. The run when instagram becomes exhausting. The run when threads starts losing interest. The run when google stops giving good results so you keep going to reddit. The run when Microsoft office has bad help articles and so you must ask reddit. The run when stack exchange becomes a cesspool of tired experts but they find Reddit more enjoyable. The run when all of the memes words like AmA and OP and poopstick are not just geek words but real life issues that pervade every platform… like HN.<p>The long run.
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replwoacause大约 1 年前
Is this just a promo puff piece for the IPO?
MagicMoonlight大约 1 年前
Reddit faked the initial users with bots to pretend it was active. Then we got the mysterious “subreddit simulator” which somehow had full read access to the database.<p>Now we have a website where all the content seems to be from bots, right before they sell.<p>I like reddit because it has every topic on it but it’s trash now. It’s not unkillable. Fundamentally it’s just a forum where users create their own subforums.
SwellJoe大约 1 年前
I always liked the reddits (Steve and Alexis), but I&#x27;m not overly fond of what reddit has become.<p>And, I fear the beatings will continue until morale improves. I just don&#x27;t think the incentives are aligned with building a good community, anymore, so there&#x27;s nothing pushing reddit toward becoming good again and many things pushing toward exploitation of the near two decades of conversation found there.
shombaboor大约 1 年前
reddit&#x27;s success shows how much luck and timing is involved. It was basically a digg clone until digg imploded on their own and everyone flocked to reddit. Kevin rose should be listed as a cofounder.
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endisneigh大约 1 年前
Posts like this timed with the IPO remind me this forum is basically a marketing engine.<p>Let’s not ever forget that.
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fuzztester大约 1 年前
Anecdotes: I interacted with both Alexis and Steve, at different times in the history of Reddit.<p>With Alexis: in the early days of Reddit. First was to ask him some general questions, probably. (Don&#x27;t fully recollect.)<p>Then he mentioned that they have just created this new feature called subreddits, and that any user can create a subreddit. I was into Ruby at that time, so I created one for Ruby. Didn&#x27;t use it much, though, after that. I don&#x27;t know if the current Ruby subreddit is the one I created or not.<p>With Steve: years later, I was consulting to a new fintech SaaS startup, in it&#x27;s earliest stage, so was helping them with requirements, high level app design and database design, and forms (UI). I pinged Steve with a few questions about architecture and technology, since Reddit was already at scale, and he replied with some suggestions.
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capital_guy大约 1 年前
Reddit has declined in quality significantly since the API changes. All my favorite subreddits lost their moderators, which were always the heart of the site.<p>Couple that with their constantly pushing their own (objectively inferior) client and killing the best ways to browse the site, I&#x27;ve really dropped off on how much I use reddit.
neilv大约 1 年前
&gt; <i>The Reddits were the &quot;Cell food muffins.&quot; &quot;Muffin&quot; is a term of endearment Jessica uses for things like small dogs and two year olds. So that gives you some idea what kind of impression Steve and Alexis made in those days. They had the look of slightly ruffled surprise that baby birds have.</i><p>LifeProTip: If the idea you pitch is obviously nonviable, be <i>just so adorable</i>.
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pmarreck大约 1 年前
I&#x27;m banned across all of my Reddit accounts because I accidentally posted to a single subreddit that I had forgotten I had been banned months before on a different account (which was unjustified, but there&#x27;s no arguing with a mod having a bad day who misinterpreted you and will not accept your apologies... I stopped trying to resolve it and just moved on. Big mistake.)<p>They called this &quot;circumventing a ban&quot;, take it very seriously (as they should, I guess, but COME ON!) and it triggers a ban across every identifiable account that is connected to you, which they achieve via AI heuristics and fingerprinting. And this is VERY effective.<p>If you create a new account because you can&#x27;t reach anyone about this (because you won&#x27;t) just to get back to anyone who sent you messages or comments or whatever, they will call this &quot;circumventing a ban AGAIN&quot; and that will be strike 2 and when you THEN try to get help they will say &quot;it says here that you have multiple circumvention attempts&quot; (to an initially unjustified ban)... etc...<p>Do you see where this is going? Once Reddit (in the form of a mod having a bad day) has decided you are a &quot;bad actor&quot; (whether true or not), it&#x27;s completely a slippery slope to a sitewide ban.<p>If anyone could help me unlock my Reddit accounts, I&#x27;d appreciate it (you can use my rep here perhaps) because it&#x27;s honestly been a horrible development- example- most of my health issues had support forums there that are now read-only for me.<p>The really unfortunate thing is that I spent much of my time trying to help other people on it, and not being able to do that has felt bad. For some evidence of this, see my HN comments (although this is not really a support forum, per se).<p>I&#x27;ve been on Reddit since it was new (my original and oldest account dates to its earliest days: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;user&#x2F;lectrick" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;user&#x2F;lectrick</a>) and I&#x27;d appreciate any help!
jkmcf大约 1 年前
With all the Reddit users effectively quitting because of the 3rd party app stupidity, why didn&#x27;t Reddit make ad delivery part of the terms of API usage or some other solution?<p>It&#x27;s not like their costs go up because you access via the API vs the website&#x2F;the official app.
unethical_ban大约 1 年前
&quot; In those days the top forum for programmers was a site called Slashdot.&quot;<p>&#x2F;. still exists, and I still go a few times a week out of habit. The level of discourse varies widely, but at least I know I&#x27;m usually talking to a human and not an Asian bot farm.
s1artibartfast大约 1 年前
It will be interesting to see the different takes from power users that opted in and out of the IPO at $34. I imagine that bitter power users who balked[1] at the offer will be further embittered if they lose out on a significant windfall. Stock is currently at $52 and dropping [2], and if I understand correctly, there was no post IPO lockup period. If so, I bet there was some champagne being popped at 1030 AM by those who opted in.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=39772319">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=39772319</a><p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;finance.yahoo.com&#x2F;quote&#x2F;RDDT" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;finance.yahoo.com&#x2F;quote&#x2F;RDDT</a>
jokoon大约 1 年前
I hope he has fresh ideas for moderation when reddit goes public<p>I can&#x27;t wait for reddit to go public, it&#x27;s going to generate a lot of drama<p>we are in the decade of internet moderation, I don&#x27;t understand why the world doesn&#x27;t care enough about this problem
downrightmike大约 1 年前
Reddit is a lemon. &quot;Some invitees say they’re worried about the company’s financial situation. Reddit recorded a net loss of $90.8 million last year, an improvement from 2022, when its deficit came it at $158.6 million. The company said in its prospectus that it’s racked up a cumulative loss of $716.6 million.&quot;<p>Reddit&#x27;s CEO and COO made $193M and $93M in 2023 but their CFO &quot;only&quot; made $6.6M<p>So if you eliminate the CEO and COO, they have a profitable business. Given those two have tried to kill the community over and again, why keep them?
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oglop大约 1 年前
I stopped using it when I noticed it had those strange banners about language in every single subreddit. It was weird to go talk about a programming question and see that.<p>ChatGPT gives me most what I got on Reddit without the weirdos and constant speech policing. Which is to say, half baked information and random wastes of time digging into some historical or scientific thing.<p>Reddit 10 years ago was fun and weird, Reddit now is a safe space meant for a wide audience and so it’s lost most the edge and fun to me. Or maybe I got old.
shubhamjain大约 1 年前
&gt; There needed to be something like del.icio.us&#x2F;popular, but designed for sharing links instead of being a byproduct of saving them.<p>I am kind of surprised that the idea was Paul Graham&#x27;s. I always assumed that it was Steve and Alex who came up with it. Considering HN was also started by PG, which has survived and grown with just a few changes every year, I think he has a unique talent for creating lasting online communities. It&#x27;s not an easy task, btw.
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OrvalWintermute大约 1 年前
Paul is wrong on Reddit, and I think his article written on 3&#x2F;21&#x2F;2024 shows how badly the perception of value is around Reddit with the community.<p>Because, he is not a user of Reddit, or, has completely missed the zeitgeist of the community<p>Users are outraged with Reddit<p>The UI is continually getting worse, and is iterating on worse<p>The Epstein&#x2F;Maxwell relationship is insane, and previous political coverups evidences corruption at the highest levels of Reddit meant to ensure that only certain things frontpage.<p>The Admin Mafia is a very real thing<p>The pay levels of Reddit execs is nausea inducing<p>Reddit is likely a great example of value destruction.
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neoromantique大约 1 年前
I started using VPN full-time and Reddit bans any datacentre ip address, does wonders to fight muscle memory built over decades to avoid this god forsaken site.
SSLy大约 1 年前
there&#x27;s an ongoing flagging tug of war on this post.
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Implicated大约 1 年前
As someone who has been aggressively cataloging &quot;data&quot; (posts, comments, subreddits, etc.) from Reddit and, importantly in this context, keeping those records relatively up-to-date, it&#x27;s absolutely astonishing how much spam there is.<p>I hash every string with a SimHash and perform a Hamming distance query against those hashes for any hash that belongs to more than 3 accounts, i.e., any full string (&gt; 42 characters) which was posted as a post title, post body, comment body, or account &quot;description&quot; by more than 3 accounts.<p>Regularly, this exposes huge networks of both fresh accounts and what I have to assume are stolen, credentialed &quot;aged&quot; accounts being used to spam that just recycle the same or very similar (Hamming distance &lt; 5 on strings &gt; 42 characters) titles&#x2F;bodies. We&#x27;re talking thousands of accounts over months just posting the same content over and over to the same range of subreddits.<p>I&#x27;m just some random Laravel enjoyer, and I&#x27;ve automated the &#x27;banning&#x27; of these accounts (really, I flag the strings, and any account that posts them is then flagged).<p>This doesn&#x27;t even touch on the media... (I&#x27;ve basically done the same thing with hashing the media to detect duplicate or very, very similar content via pHash). Thousands and thousands of accounts are spamming the same images over and over and over.<p>From my numbers, 59% of the content on Reddit is spam, and 51% of the accounts are spam, and that&#x27;s not including the media-flagged spammers.<p>They don&#x27;t seem to care about the spam, or they&#x27;re completely inept. With the resources at their disposal, there&#x27;s such a huge portion of this that should be able to be moderated before it ever reaches the API&#x2F;live.
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baal80spam大约 1 年前
Argh - the font is nigh-unreadable on a FullHD monitor. Why on earth does the modern web UI insist on the SUPER-THIN variants of fonts?
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paxys大约 1 年前
Translated: &quot;Buy this garbage stock so I can finally make some money from this damn company&quot; – Paul Graham
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rndmwlk大约 1 年前
&gt;If Reddit could grow to the size it had with management that was harmless at best, what could it do if Steve came back?<p>Harmless at best wasn&#x27;t enough, so let&#x27;s bring in actively harmful!<p>I&#x27;m being hyperbolic but Reddit doesn&#x27;t really seem to have grown in any meaningful way for a long time; frankly, it has regressed in many ways since Steve has regained the reins.<p>Steve is operating with more info than I am, so maybe all his decisions are sound from a business perspective, but as a user I&#x27;ve only seen Reddit become less useful, less novel, less active, and less enjoyable. As a result I use it less, and I know others use it less as well. There is no real moat to Reddit outside of it&#x27;s user base, if they continue to push too hard I don&#x27;t see how they survive.
sandspar大约 1 年前
Complaints about the stupidity and herd mindedness of the Reddit user base can generally be boiled down to complaints about large groups of average people gathered together. Look upon the average person, ye mighty, and despair.
dogcomplex大约 1 年前
Evil pays well in the short term. Reddit has been squeezing users and making their app unusable for quite some time. Lack of competent alternative and the difficulty of &quot;porting&quot; the data already there is all that&#x27;s keeping it up. Still, they&#x27;ll probably just try to buy any competition.<p>Note: they don&#x27;t even let you escape the reddit app browser for external links anymore - no copying url (or any page content&#x2F;links), no &quot;open in external browser&quot;. Absolute pure evil UX.
satvikpendem大约 1 年前
Speaking of reddit, this is one of the most interesting comments on the site, by cofounder and ex-CEO Yishan:<p>&gt; <i>What&#x27;s the best &quot;long con&quot; you ever pulled?</i><p>&gt;&gt; Here&#x27;s one.<p>&gt;&gt; In 2006, reddit was sold to Conde Nast. It was soon obvious to many that the sale had been premature, the site was unmanaged and under-resourced under the old-media giant who simply didn&#x27;t understand it and could never realize its full potential, so the founders and their allies in Y-Combinator (where reddit had been born) hatched an audacious plan to re-extract reddit from the clutches of the 100-year-old media conglomerate.<p>&gt;&gt; Together with Sam Altman, they recruited a young up-and-coming technology manager with social media credentials. Alexis, who was on the interview panel for the new reddit CEO, would reject all other candidates except this one. The manager was to insist as a condition of taking the job that Conde Nast would have to give up significant ownership of the company, first to employees by justifying the need for equity to be able to hire top talent, bringing in Silicon Valley insiders to help run the company. After continuing to grow the company, he would then further dilute Conde Nast&#x27;s ownership by raising money from a syndicate of Silicon Valley investors led by Sam Altman, now the President of Y-Combinator itself, who in the process would take a seat on the board.<p>&gt;&gt; Once this was done, he and his team would manufacture a series of otherwise-improbable leadership crises, forcing the new board to scramble to find a new CEO, allowing Altman to use his position on the board to advocate for the re-introduction of the old founders, installing them on the board and as CEO, thus returning the company to their control and relegating Conde Nast to a position as minority shareholder.<p>&gt;&gt; JUST KIDDING. There&#x27;s no way that could happen.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;AskReddit&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3cs78i&#x2F;whats_the_best_long_con_you_ever_pulled&#x2F;cszjqg2&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;old.reddit.com&#x2F;r&#x2F;AskReddit&#x2F;comments&#x2F;3cs78i&#x2F;whats_the...</a><p>The best part is all the responses by Steve Huffman, Sam Altman, and Ellen Pao, all related to the Reddit leadership at one time or another.
adr1an大约 1 年前
Reddit (the idea) is alive and spreading (federated) in Lemmy :)
lupire大约 1 年前
This article is an ad for the IPO, posted by an investor.
wilgertvelinga大约 1 年前
If you enjoy visual representations, try <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scrolldit.com&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;scrolldit.com&#x2F;</a>
ecommerceguy大约 1 年前
Obligatory link to an article covering how Reddit got started - Tons of fake accounts<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vice.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;article&#x2F;z4444w&#x2F;how-reddit-got-huge-tons-of-fake-accounts--2" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.vice.com&#x2F;en&#x2F;article&#x2F;z4444w&#x2F;how-reddit-got-huge-t...</a>
kn100大约 1 年前
nuked my 8 year old account and all posts and comments I had there after their API bull. Lemmy isn&#x27;t as enjoyable as the communities are far smaller and less engaged, but overall I&#x27;ve spent a lot less time scrolling for no reason so overall it&#x27;s a win.<p>same thing with Twitter and Mastodon, except I feel Mastodon was far more successful a transition for me.
_Marak_大约 1 年前
Now that Reddit is a public company, will information about the &quot;maxwellhill&quot; account be released?
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abxytg大约 1 年前
rest in peace Aaron Swartz
hersko大约 1 年前
Reddit has completely destroyed their mobile website to drive users to their (bad) app. They also destroyed most of their app competitors with the whole API fiasco.
Thorentis大约 1 年前
Wait so Reddit wasn&#x27;t even their idea? Paul just handed them an idea and a bunch of money to go with it?
scoofy大约 1 年前
This is a bittersweet period for me. I&#x27;m a long time redditor, large subreddit creator, and even very large subreddit former mod. I&#x27;ve even met both Alexis and Steve because of reddit.<p>At the same time, it&#x27;s glaringly obvious that while the site was build for analytical, idealist, content contributor folks like me (i.e., the type of people who have contributed to wikipedia at least a few times), the site is being converted to focus on content consumption in order to reach a broader audience.<p>I don&#x27;t want to be mad. I still use old.reddit and tend to stick to the smaller subs I know and love (e.g. &#x2F;r&#x2F;RainbowEverything, &#x2F;r&#x2F;flashlight, &#x2F;r&#x2F;knolling, &#x2F;r&#x2F;ShittyDaystrom), but whenever I click on &#x2F;r&#x2F;all, I die a little bit inside, because it feels like I&#x27;m staring a reflection of the worst instincts of humanity (both the awful and the cliché), rather than the best of humanity I saw on the first days of &#x2F;r&#x2F;all when it was a way to add more blogs to my google reader feed.<p>We all built a cool website together, and it was fun. I&#x27;ll keep using it, but I probably wont ever actively moderate again, simply because it&#x27;s obvious that they have a different vision. I&#x27;ve always found reddit to be the best of all the social media networks, simply because it actually requires people to engage instead of using it as a megaphone. I may even invest in it somewhere down the road if the financials make more sense.
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hgs3大约 1 年前
Is there an equivalent of Reddit run by a non-profit?
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blastro大约 1 年前
when old.reddit.com dies, i&#x27;ll be done :peace:
woah大约 1 年前
From what I can tell, Reddit took a huge legacy forum product and pivoted into a modern social media app, using all the algorithmically addictive tricks in the modern social media app playbook.<p>Their numbers look really good with consistent growth in MAU and revenue year over year: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessofapps.com&#x2F;data&#x2F;reddit-statistics&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.businessofapps.com&#x2F;data&#x2F;reddit-statistics&#x2F;</a><p>And IIRC they are larger than such properties as Pinterest and Linkedin. I use the app daily, and it is full of activity on a huge number of subreddits.<p>It seems like the only people who don&#x27;t like Reddit are middle aged men on programming forums who nevertheless use old.reddit.com every day. They&#x27;ve basically created the TikTok of text content.
rdelpret大约 1 年前
I’m waiting for the discord IPO personally.
saos大约 1 年前
Anyone shorting the stock?
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treme大约 1 年前
poor alex. did he sell all his shares for like 20M years back?
indus大约 1 年前
IPO HN: Reddit (YC S05)
pants2大约 1 年前
Reminder that in 2014, Reddit planned on giving away 10% of its stock to dedicated power users and moderators[1], before Ellen Pao (briefly) and then Steve rejoined as CEO.<p>1. <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;09&#x2F;30&#x2F;reddit-fundraising&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcrunch.com&#x2F;2014&#x2F;09&#x2F;30&#x2F;reddit-fundraising&#x2F;</a>
1970-01-01大约 1 年前
Social media as a concept is in big trouble: Facebook, Tiktok, and others are constantly explaining themselves in Washington. Twitter has transformed into Elon Musk&#x27;s media toy. Reddit is full of echo chambers that produce very little original content.
photochemsyn大约 1 年前
see also:<p>Reddit Data API Update: Changes to Pushshift Access - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35776848">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35776848</a> 16 comments<p>Reddit&#x27;s proposed API changes and the continued existence of RedReader - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35767700">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35767700</a> 109 comments<p>Reddit comments and submissions collected by Pushshift - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36038684">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=36038684</a> 294 comments<p>Since they disabled the ability to search effectively using pushshift, I haven&#x27;t been back to Reddit myself.
meesles大约 1 年前
Puff piece you would expect from key stakeholders in this whole fiasco (conveniently timed, might I add). Respect where respect is due, but nothing in this post is worth a grain of salt in my opinion.
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bastardoperator大约 1 年前
People are already raging that Reddit can&#x27;t pay moderators, but that Spez takes more compensation than Tim Cook while his company reports losses. Reddit said it themselves, one similar website could take them out and that&#x27;s exactly what I see happening once the landscape changes from community to profit which to your point is already happening given recent events.
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shmatt大约 1 年前
I really dont understand the hate. Reddit to me is a mini Facebook, with some added anonimity<p>* Mods dont get paid - Facebook Groups has niche groups much bigger than niche subreddits. I subscribe to both FB and Reddit for the car models I own, the FB groups are 10x bigger with 20x posts. Those mods dont get paid either, and Facebook as a much bigger spam&#x2F;fake account problem to work tirelessly to defend your group against<p>* No API &#x2F; 3rd Party access - well, just try asking Meta for a free API to build an adless wrapper around the Facebook wall, good luck<p>But spez is the bad guy here and zuck is a saint. Or they&#x27;re both bad guys but if you think that, then spez is on the right trajectory to easily have a $20b company in 5 years<p>People seem to be confusing - high potential for profits with building an adless platform that also has succesfully passed the network effect
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spacecadet大约 1 年前
Market manipulation in broad daylight. lol.
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djaouen大约 1 年前
I don&#x27;t go on Reddit anymore because there is too much drama there lol
westmeal大约 1 年前
Posts about the reddits on orange reddit :)
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justinator大约 1 年前
Now I miss del.icio.us.
SkyMarshal大约 1 年前
<i>&gt; They told me about the startup idea we&#x27;d later fund them to drop: a way to order fast food on your cellphone.</i><p><i>&gt; This was before smartphones. They&#x27;d have had to make deals with cell carriers and fast food chains just to get it launched. So it was not going to happen. It still doesn&#x27;t exist, 19 years later.</i><p>What does he mean here, since Uber Eats, Door Dash, Postmates, Grub Hub, and a bunch of similar startups all do some version of that.
adamc大约 1 年前
Reddit has become steadily less useful to me; the UI is awful. The endless pressure to use their app is irritating.<p>So I dunno that I buy this adulation of Steve.
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theGnuMe大约 1 年前
Congrats to Reddit and YC. An example of the adage that all successful businesses succeed despite themselves and why product market fit is so important.<p>I remember the early days.. I deleted that early account b&#x2F;c reddit was <i>so</i> addictive. And it arguably still is. I remember receiving a few replies from Aaron. He was a kid who was living in the future way ahead of his time.<p>I migrated here though when reddit diversified subreddits.. kinda like when Facebook opened up to the world reddit became less useful for conversation.<p>And I&#x27;ve gone through a few accounts&#x2F;handles for the same reasons here as reddit.<p>Downvotes and even distributed slashdot moderation work to discourage conversation and ultimately engagement unless you garner a critical mass to break out of the algorithm. I imagine post engagement follows Zipf&#x27;s law. This probably explains why people buy upvotes and followers etc...<p>No site is immune to this as far as I can tell. Niche subbreddits help but then those tend to be actively moderated. Very specific forums also tend to be better for specific things (like car forums).<p>Good advice is to never read the comments to the things you post and I guess that means replies as well :) .. It&#x27;s a weird dynamic because what all humans really need is to be heard..<p>And yet magic internet points are not quite the correct filter. Maybe AI will save us.