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VLC: App Stores Were a Mistake

91 点作者 bundie大约 1 年前

15 条评论

grishka大约 1 年前
Another thing why I hate app stores is that they have ratings and reviews. While a good idea in theory, in practice they&#x27;re meaningless. But because the rating is an &quot;important&quot; metric, app developers do so much to inflate it. All those annoying, incessant popups to &quot;rate your experience&quot;, that, if you give 5 starts, would plead you to also rate the app in the store. As an Android app developer, I also have complaints about this — people would sometimes leave negative reviews because of something your app is not related to. Like &quot;I used this app and my account got hacked&quot;, on the official app for the service that hosts the account in question.<p>And another tangential issue is how search in Google Play is a ridiculous mess lately. It would show you WhatsApp and some other popular apps for literally any search query, while not finding the app you&#x27;re actually looking for, even if you enter its exact name.
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ForHackernews大约 1 年前
VLC is one of the most impressive pieces of software I&#x27;ve ever used. I still remember the time in school when an older kid showed me he could launch VLC from a usb stick, without &quot;installing it&quot; and play torrented movies on the machines in the computer lab, without admin rights or the ability to install codecs.<p>Runs everywhere, plays anything is not an understatement.
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thunderbong大约 1 年前
The text:<p>App Stores were a mistake. Currently, we cannot update VLC on Windows Store, and we cannot update VLC on Android Play Store, without reducing security or dropping a lot of users... For now, iOS App Store still allows us to ship for iOS9, but until when?
reaperman大约 1 年前
Would really love to know more details about their struggles on Android Play Store and Windows Store.<p>Edit:<p>Windows Store - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;videolan&#x2F;status&#x2F;1759688788232523788?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;videolan&#x2F;status&#x2F;1759688788232523788?ref_...</a><p>Android Play Store - <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;videolan&#x2F;status&#x2F;1771102415279763909?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;twitter.com&#x2F;videolan&#x2F;status&#x2F;1771102415279763909?ref_...</a>
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wkat4242大约 1 年前
At least on Android you can simply use another store or sideload the app itself directly. I love that about Android. I don&#x27;t even have a Google account on my phone.
ur-whale大约 1 年前
&gt; App store were a mistake<p>Like most thing on the internet that are designed to make the end user&#x27;s life easier while boiling the frog behind the scenes, centralizing control and taking away end user freedom.<p>Story as old as the world, if you think about it: relinquishing control and freedom in exchange for comfort and ease of life.<p>The list is endless (iOS, Android, App stores, Windows, censored search engines, YT ...).<p>Just yesterday there was a HN story about gitlab taking down the source code for some game emulator.<p>Exact same premises, exact same outcome: you can either be free or be lazy. You can&#x27;t be both.
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sp332大约 1 年前
I didn&#x27;t realize this until I saw it in a comment there, but if you download an app from the Windows Store, it will often run its own updater instead of updating from the Store. So even if you download an out of date version of VLC to begin with, it will at least prompt you to upgrade when you start it.
politelemon大约 1 年前
Fdroid handles this pretty well. They don&#x27;t impose the restrictions that the larger tech firms do, you can build for very very old devices.
woadwarrior01大约 1 年前
Does anybody still use iOS 9? If someone hasn&#x27;t updated their OS in 8 years, is it reasonable for them the expect app updates on it?
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PaulKeeble大约 1 年前
The combination of store and update service isn&#x27;t a necessary approach and splitting the two is a lot more open and windows installer like anyway. Chocolatey does just the updating but I don&#x27;t love how it works but it separates the concerns and allows hosting where ever you want.
sixdimensional大约 1 年前
Marketplaces are either open or closed. For open marketplaces to thrive, they must be under the control ultimately of decentralized, federated authority. This means light governance based on interoperability standards, followed by independent, autonomous organizational units and individuals participating in open standard process frameworks.<p>That doesn’t mean closed marketplaces don’t work - they do, and well (to a point and certain scale) and are necessary, and there is an interplay between the two.<p>That said, open marketplaces and standards are for certain the superset of closed ones, this is where we get the interplay of public and private.<p>App stores as a model aren’t necessarily the problem, they are just a distribution model. The control and operation of app stores as they are currently controlled mainly as closed&#x2F;private could be perceived as an obstacle. But, why not then pursue what an open App Store&#x2F;marketplace might look like?<p>I believe the above is like physics, and some may label me a heretic for the strength of my belief in the above.<p>I truly believe that the sooner humanity advances to this understanding more broadly and we can more easily converse and cooperate in decentralized, federated, open marketplaces as an everyday pursuit, the better off all will be.<p>The Internet, and me being able to post this right now on the open forum of HN is proof of the value in fully understanding and being comfortable with the concepts.
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nojvek大约 1 年前
App stores were definitely a mistake. I see the arguments for we gotta vet and ensure security, but it’s been so political and poorly done that Apple and Google play king makers and rent-collecting empires.
sys_64738大约 1 年前
It&#x27;s about control and OS companies want to return to the old days where the ISV was not a thing unless blessed by them. Sony was a big proponent of this in recent years.
Turing_Machine大约 1 年前
iOS...9?<p>I actually went to the link to check if this was a mistake.
sixdimensional大约 1 年前
So what should change?
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