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Google will start showing AI-powered search results for users who didn't opt-in

117 点作者 microflash大约 1 年前

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1024core大约 1 年前
I was writing some Python code (not my primary language), and wanted to know if there was something built into f-strings that would nicely wordwrap the output.<p>I did a Google search for &quot;how can I create f-strings in python so the output is wrapped at some fixed length&quot;. Except, for Google, I did not use the &quot;how do I&quot; etc. and just threw some keywords at it: &quot;python f-string wrapping&quot;, &quot;python f-string folding&quot;, etc.<p>All I got back was various results on how to wrap f-strings themselves.<p>Frustrated, I typed &quot;how can I create f-strings in python so the output is wrapped at some fixed length&quot; into ChatGPT, and back came the answer: ... However, f-strings themselves don&#x27;t provide a built-in method for wrapping text at a specific width. ... For text wrapping, you can use the textwrap module ... Here&#x27;s how you can combine f-strings with the textwrap module to achieve text wrapping: ... (followed by a full example).<p>I think &quot;Search&quot; will be changing dramatically over the next year or two. And websites which depend on Search traffic to survive will be in deep trouble.
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kibwen大约 1 年前
I categorically do not want an LLM regurgitating answers at me.<p>What I want is a <i>librarian</i>, who can sift through the impossibly vast oceans of information and point me at resources that are relevant to my query.
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vicnov大约 1 年前
I would have been on board with it, if I didn’t get a completely wrong AI generated response from Google the other day.<p>I was for some reason looking into history of Reddit and ended up searching “what happened to former AMA coordinator Victoria Taylor”. Google AI summary got confused and told me that she got fired because hundreds of redditors voted for her ouster (clearly mixing up Victoria’s story and Ellen Pao’s)<p>I know n=1, but feels like maybe a little too early to get it out of the experimental mode.
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throwup238大约 1 年前
I wonder if Kagi&#x27;s implementation of the same feature influenced anyone at google or if this was an inevitable development. Google has been providing the AI answer boxes for years but it&#x27;s never been very user driven.<p>With Kagi you can use !fast&#x2F;!expert bangs to use one of several LLMs fed the top few search results or as of last month, just end the search query with a question mark (no affiliation just a happy customer). It&#x27;s almost completely changed how I use search.
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paxys大约 1 年前
Google has been showing &quot;AI-powered&quot; search results for well over a decade now.
Noumenon72大约 1 年前
I use the same Google account at work and home but only got AI-powered results at work, making me wonder what else Google does differently when you connect from a favored IP.
habitue大约 1 年前
Didn&#x27;t opt in? Since when do we get to opt into a tech company&#x27;s product changes?<p>I get that generative AI is the latest terrible thing, but this seems like a normal product rollout to me
divbzero大约 1 年前
Bing has also included AI-powered search results since last year: <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blogs.microsoft.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2023&#x2F;02&#x2F;07&#x2F;reinventing-search-with-a-new-ai-powered-microsoft-bing-and-edge-your-copilot-for-the-web&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;blogs.microsoft.com&#x2F;blog&#x2F;2023&#x2F;02&#x2F;07&#x2F;reinventing-sear...</a>
ilaksh大约 1 年前
This could be considered a new era for the internet. Or whenever it starts being used to serve the majority of search results.<p>People who are skeptical of AI won&#x27;t like it of course. But it will be a literal and practical change to the way the majority of internet searches work.<p>Google basically becomes the de facto personal agent for most people at that point. I would not be surprised to see Google Assistant merge into the main search product.<p>Microsoft had actually been strategic by promoting Copilot.<p>I know that many HNers generally hate Blockchain and smart contracts and decentralized technologies, but I feel this direction is the only viable alternative to monopoly platforms that are now even more directly acting as our interface to the world via agents.<p>Exactly what that looks like I don&#x27;t know. But I do know it involves open protocols and probably open marketplaces for knowledge and other types of tasks.
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7ewis大约 1 年前
Is SGE any good? Would love to try it, but I&#x27;m in the UK. Did try enabling it with a VPN a few months ago without any luck.
jeffbee大约 1 年前
I&#x27;ve had these enabled since launch and I think they are great. It usually provides 2-3 stanzas of summary, each with a carousel of sources. It&#x27;s a useful format because in a ranked list it is not always immediately obvious when there are multiple classes of results, the union of which answers your question. With the summary result, the correspondence between sources and relevant facts in more obvious.
yoyopa大约 1 年前
I don&#x27;t want to search. I want to filter your ridiculously large database to find certain information.
huytersd大约 1 年前
It’s actually working pretty well. I’m usually am satisfied by the AI response atleast 50% of the time.
KolmogorovComp大约 1 年前
Side-question but relevant (wanted to do an Ask HN about it for a while).<p>I have a relatively large corpus (~10k pages), and would like to augment traditional keyword search with AI. Eg: write my question and get an LLM answer *backed-up* by search and linking to the part of the corpus used.<p>What are my options here? Local option would be best.
bionhoward大约 1 年前
“You may not use the Services to develop machine learning models or related technology.”<p>If these start showing up on ML searches, I’m going to troll them HARD.
rchaud大约 1 年前
What was the final edition of Encarta Encyclopedia? 2009? Might have to go back to the old ways of doing things.
neximo64大约 1 年前
This is actually a nice feature, why would I need to opt in to it?
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lukev大约 1 年前
The quality of these results is in my experience quite poor, so this is worrying to me. (The other comment about &quot;distilled blogspam&quot; hits the nail on the head I think.)<p>It highlights a fundamental tension around Google&#x27;s core product: Users want accurate information. From their perspective, that is the singular <i>purpose</i> of using Google. But Google&#x27;s internal purpose is only to sell ads. It makes no difference to their bottom line whether the information they give users is correct unless it gets so bad they start losing ad impressions.<p>Speaking even more broadly, it&#x27;s very depressing to me how secondary the goal of building a good, useful or functional thing is subservient or at best orthogonal to the goal of making money.
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gentleman11大约 1 年前
Instead of visiting content creators or information sources directly, you allow google to insert themselves between you and them. The sources get starved and google later has the opportunity to shape what is said to influence you (ie, “advertise” in a more varied way, or else give a political spin or some pro corporate or PR approved way)<p>see also: amazons ai review summarizer will one day have a larger role and will surely skew things to increase sales
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xnx大约 1 年前
Surprised to see negative reactions to this. Generated search results that distill actual content are definitely better than blogspam that has only a few useful tidbits in thousands of words and dozens of huge ad blocks.
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webkike大约 1 年前
I think this might be the tipping point for me to start looking for alternatives in the search engine space
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tayo42大约 1 年前
Do the swe&#x2F;people actually doing the implementation of this really think llms are ready to be used like this and won&#x27;t just piss off and turn people against &quot;ai&quot;<p>What chat gpt did was interesting, in hindsight I think it was a mistake calling it ai.
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Socnic大约 1 年前
The problem with that is that Google, now more then ever, can show you whatever they want. Another step toward being just a dumb TV. (AKA propaganda engine)
dylan604大约 1 年前
so search is no longer a result of links to a page where information is found. search is now just an answer to a question. I don&#x27;t really have a problem as that&#x27;s what people really want. what I do have an issue with is that the people that put time&#x2F;energy&#x2F;effort into providing the information that Google has taken to train their data service get no credit or any attempt at being rewarded for their effort. sure, they might still provide links to SEO crap sites to make it &quot;feel&quot; like web search. this is just the latest of steps to remove the ability to actually finding a website.<p>to me, this should be a totally separate product. the Googs Answer All 5000(TM) will just give the answer to whatever is being asked with no method of inspecting the validity of the answer.