GenZ software engineers, according to older colleagues

The affinity for bleeding edge, and working higher up the stack, is not a genz specific trait, it's every younger developer since the beginning of developers. Every next generation goes through this and rediscovers all the concepts the previous generation did.

So basically GenZ realized that a company is not your friend, they can fire you the moment you are not valuable. I feel sorry for older generations that let themselves be exploited, there's no point in being loyal to a company. IMO I have a deal with the company I'm working with: my skills and time for money, of course I always want a better deal which means more money or more benefits.

A bit of advice for the author: If you want to get votes for you poll, then don't require participants to subscribe to your newsletter. I see it as a waste of my time.

Seems like they&#x27;re mostly describing young people.<p>Young people are much more likely to protest, have unrealistic expectations, not follow process, behave unpredictably and take risks.

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&gt; “From my old-school perspective, they are somewhat entitled, expecting flexibility, yearly raises and promotions – even when the company has no need for more managers, for example. They also expect significant benefits on top of our higher-than-market pay.<p>&gt; As many before me have said, they have cast off outdated expectations of ‘loyalty’ to jobs that aren&#x27;t loyal to them, in return. It&#x27;s admirable for the most part, though I do not think everyone should get raises&#x2F;promotions every year in a small company.”<p>&gt; – Head of Product at a startup (Millennial, US)<p>That&#x27;s been the de facto for a while and now it&#x27;s just gone. Second part is wild

&gt; Some found that the GenZ were too open, insensitive, and should be more sensitive of their environment, and of people hearing what they said.<p>This is the exact opposite of what I&#x27;ve found, and what other older engineers and engineering managers I personally know have found.<p>In genreal we find GenZ to be overly sensitive to technical critisism, and unwilling to speak bluntly about technical ramifications.<p>This point alone makes me doubt the entire article...

As a Gen Zer myself, parts of this rubbed me the wrong way in the sense that it feels like many gen X&#x2F;boomers are applying the mindset that got them their success in their early life is still relevant today.<p>We&#x27;ve become jaded growing up in a world that is increasingly difficult to live in - in my home country we have massive cost of living increases, ever-nascent climate change, housing shortages and income inequality, aging population combined with policy changes that make life better for the boomer generation.<p>Many of my peers have given up hope that they will ever be able to buy their own home. We&#x27;re stressed, lonely, and are a generation of test subjects to big-tech&#x27;s addiction machines.<p>Working in tech has it&#x27;s benefits and I am lucky to not be faced with many of these issues personally, but I know plenty of people my age and younger that have gone past the stage of &quot;terrified for the world their kids will grow up in&quot; and into a numb subsistence.

I remember reading the identical points made about millennials when we were coming up, in comparison to genx. It&#x27;s almost if it&#x27;s about how old experienced people interpret young inexperienced people, and not a generational marketing buzzword aligned concept.<p>FWIW the zoomers I work with seem, apart from the fact that they watch tiktok, basically identical to how I remember being new in the field.

&gt;A note of caution: of course, it’s impossible to sum up a whole generation based on a mix of opinions from a few workplaces!<p>Ironic that this article feels I&#x27;m the one who needs warning

I wonder if it is really possible to compare generations across the world.<p>In my country generations didn&#x27;t even have a name until recently when 15-20 yo started talking about millenials, Z and boomers, where boomers are anybody about the age of their parents and more. Technically most of those parents are generation X, some even Y. I learned it by reading the article now.<p>Furthermore and more importantly different social and economic dynamics mean that people of the supposed same generation are different, especially when generations span only a few years. They watch the same videos but the world around them could be significantly different. A generation in one part of the world could be more similar to the previous or the next one somewhere else.<p>Anyway, probably all results still hold true if we think about evaluating the differences between people that entered the job market recently and colleagues that have been working for 10 or 20 years.

<p><pre><code> &quot;[...] I do not think everyone should get raises&#x2F;promotions every year in a small company.” – Head of Product at a startup (Millennial, US) </code></pre> See, here is the problem. If the company is increasing its earning then i want a raise too, because i contributed to that increase. And if the company is not increasing its earning i might look around because the company might not be doing so well.<p>Due to inflation and other factors, cost of living is increasing anyway, so either way you should give out some form of raise every year (at the very least).<p>As another millennial... GenZ&#x27;ers just got this right. I had to live through this and understand it, but it seems to be natural to them, somehow?<p>They just got this right, and most people can (should?) only learn.

As a boomer (unemployed, but who cares) I feel a connection.

There wont be any. ChatGPT and a smaller number of Millennial generation experts are going to be running the show from here on