Proton and Standard Notes are joining forces

I have a feeling that Proton has too many different products, and inevitably, like their greatest competitor, the google, they will be forced to wind some of them down. And that will make some users mad. Proton Drive still does not have an option to sync files from Linux with no ETA. Introducing new products and not caring about existing products sure shows company's nearsightedness. And even if I am paying customer, they are still pestering me with upsell promotions, to use their other products that I have no interest in.

After evaluating Proton and Fastmail, I ended up in the Fastmail camp.<p>My solution for notes is Joplin (<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;joplinapp.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;joplinapp.org&#x2F;</a>) + Fastmail&#x27;s WebDev support.<p>Joplin is amazing, supports arbitrary file attachments of any size, optionally encrypts every thing. Has an iOS, Andriod, Linux, Mac, and Windows app. &quot;Just works&quot;.

I can’t stand this ambiguous language, what does “join” even mean? Can’t they just write “Proton buys 100% of Standard Notes”?

This sounds like wonderful news to me.<p>Will Standard Notes &#x27;productivity&#x27; and&#x2F;or &#x27;professional&#x27; features (as listed on <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;standardnotes.com&#x2F;plans" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;standardnotes.com&#x2F;plans</a>) be available for free to all paying Proton subscribers?<p>Most importantly: when will paying Proton users be able to start using the productivity&#x2F;professional features via their Proton subscription? I can&#x27;t wait, which is why I&#x27;m eager to know. :-)<p>I&#x27;ve waited for Proton to release a feature like this. Finally... I mean, I love Obsidian but it&#x27;s not encrypted on my devices by default.<p>Thanks!

This is great news, I’d love to see it included in paid subscriptions. I think Proton does the right thing building fully functional alternative to Google&#x2F;Microsoft&#x2F;Apple apps.<p>People like me don’t want to spread the butter over a dozen of different vendors, but at the same time paying for this type of service to a hardware or advertising firm doesn’t make sense. Neither I want my data to be managed by US-based company, so it’s quite a natural choice. That said, I hope Proton will find the right balance between cost of subscription and investment in R&amp;D. Sometimes it feels like they are not moving fast enough - as much as I’d love to start using Calendar or Drive, they are just not usable yet.

Interesting - I&#x27;ve used Standard Notes since 2019 and, more recently, become a Proton user. Both products have a similar, well designed, feel and make encryption easier to daily drive. SN in particular is just a really well-designed notes app.<p>After being burned by acquisitions in the past, I sincerely hope we see both products improve each other.

Hopefully they can turn Standard Notes into a product I’d be willing to return to. I like the company ethos, but the product was too clunky. The configurable editors all seemed to be of a poorer quality than opinionated competitors.

I wish they would rather fix their Proton Calendar app. It is really useless to have notifications coming on email as &quot;Reminder: event starting at 6:00 PM&quot;. You know when it starts. There is a link to an event. Why also not put there title of the event?

Just don&#x27;t raise prices. I&#x27;m only paying for secure email, I don&#x27;t want or use any of the extra apps.

I was a paying user to both Standard Notes and Proton. I, however, moved away from Standard Notes and my subscription renewed without notice. I contacted them and they reversed the transaction without hassle. I continue to pay for Proton. Depending on how the products are incorporated I can see myself moving back to Standard Notes.

Diversifying a lot. Next acquisition will be Ghost(<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ghost.org&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;ghost.org&#x2F;</a>) I bet. Similar DNA, fits in the portfolio (If they are trying to match the feature set of Google) and have no VC backing.

Since proton is watching this thread...one more person saying to you proton, please stay focused on your core product. A secure mostly non-spying..., ad free, email client. However... I am happy that you&#x27;re adding a note feature.

Reminder that proton willingly cooperates with and is required by the swiss government to log and give all your activity to them.<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;information-technology&#x2F;2021&#x2F;09&#x2F;privacy-focused-protonmail-provided-a-users-ip-address-to-authorities&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;arstechnica.com&#x2F;information-technology&#x2F;2021&#x2F;09&#x2F;priva...</a><p>Their email is a scam, they own all the keys and software you use to access the email.

&#x27;I want this product&#x27;, said no paying Proton customer.

great, I was just hoping for one of the few secure email services to massively expand it&#x27;s attack surface.