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Why Michael Moorcock Despises Tolkien and C. S. Lewis

15 点作者 BerislavLopac大约 1 年前

13 条评论

skissane大约 1 年前
A hundred years from now, people will still be reading Tolkien and Lewis, and almost nobody will remember who Moorcock was.
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oyster143大约 1 年前
Every time i re-read 'The Lord of the Rings' I'm amazed at how 'racist' it is in the literal sense of the word. Everything is built around races: the good characters are from the north/west, while the bad ones come from the south/east, etc.
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082349872349872大约 1 年前
oh bother, here&#x27;s the original article: &quot;epic pooh&quot; (1978) <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;warwick.ac.uk&#x2F;fac&#x2F;arts&#x2F;english&#x2F;currentstudents&#x2F;undergraduate&#x2F;modules&#x2F;en361fantastika&#x2F;bibliography&#x2F;2.7moorcock_m.1978epic_pooh.pdf" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;warwick.ac.uk&#x2F;fac&#x2F;arts&#x2F;english&#x2F;currentstudents&#x2F;under...</a><p>I don&#x27;t know how closely Moorcock read his rabbits: in the <i>Watership Down</i> I read, Le Guin&#x27;s Omelas existed as a warren, a little more realistic and a little less difficult to map to our own circumstances, and Adams had the honesty to explore the ambiguity, the decency to point out the economic and cultural benefits that Cowslip et.al. got from their arrangement.<p>Milne, on the other hand, doesn&#x27;t ever delve into the explicit delapinisation of the less fortunate.
optimalsolver大约 1 年前
So does David Brin:<p>J.R.R. Tolkien -- enemy of progress (2002):<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.salon.com&#x2F;2002&#x2F;12&#x2F;17&#x2F;tolkien_brin&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.salon.com&#x2F;2002&#x2F;12&#x2F;17&#x2F;tolkien_brin&#x2F;</a>
bellgrove大约 1 年前
I wonder if some (or all?) of this scorn is due to LotR&#x27;s pop status - many probably consider it the pinnacle of fantasy without having read through much else in the genre of that era; for many more it probably is everything they know of fantasy. His works are indeed special but there are some really great authors like Eddison, Peake, and Leiber (and Moorcock, I suppose) who don&#x27;t seem to get much recognition.
DrBazza大约 1 年前
I didn&#x27;t see any mention of the fact that both Lewis + Tolkien lived through World Wars. Nor the fact that those books were also written in an &quot;era&quot;.<p>I can&#x27;t say that I&#x27;m surprised at the tone, or &#x27;verbose&#x27; writing style of either book (think HG Wells, or Dickens for example).<p>Compared to, say, Pratchett, post-war, humorous, short punchy sentences. Or Douglas Adams.<p>They&#x27;re literally (pun intended) of their era.
wrp大约 1 年前
If you are interested in the history of Tolkien criticism, <i>The Power of Tolkien&#x27;s Prose: Middle-Earth&#x27;s Magical Style</i>, by Steve Walker (2009) is good reading.
chrisan大约 1 年前
I enjoy scifi&#x2F;fantasy but had no clue who Michael Moorcock is.<p>Are his books good or this just a jealous ranty guy?
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nottorp大约 1 年前
Hmm looks like the essay-on-essay author has only read the Elric part of the Eternal Champion.
vintermann大约 1 年前
Didn&#x27;t know he was still alive.<p>Well, he has that going for him at least.
tmaly大约 1 年前
Is it because of their last names and great books?
viburnum大约 1 年前
Well, yeah, they’re books for children, of course they sound like fairy tales. Maybe Moorcock doesn’t understand his genre.
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coldtea大约 1 年前
Because he is &quot;edgy&quot;, those old people couldn&#x27;t appeal to his emo punk sensibilities &#x2F;s<p>&gt;<i>Like Chesterton, and other orthodox Christian writers who substituted faith for artistic rigour [Tolkien] sees the petit bourgeoisie, the honest artisans and peasants, as the bulwark against Chaos.</i><p>This is the crux of his argument, and its an ideological one. He conflates his ideology (which is opposite to that of Tolkien, Lewis, Chesterton and co) for artistic rigour (sic). The rest, about the language and such, are mere dressing.<p>&gt;<i>But there’s nothing wrong with a religious person writing religious books, even if that religion is privileged, as Christianity is.</i><p>How was Christianity privileged exactly? Should Tolkien&#x27;s and Lewis&#x27;s 1950s Britain, a 99% Christian nation, nerf its faith for some reason? (especially since, knowing the Church of England, it wasn&#x27;t that strong to begin with).<p>Christianity is (or rather was) as privileged in Christian countries, as other religions were&#x2F;are privileged in countries following them.