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Man, stranded in the desert, makes a motorcycle from his broken car

300 点作者 jcubic大约 13 年前

34 条评论

nicholassmith大约 13 年前
I understand why people are calling 'hoax' on it, but it is really possible, especially given that area of Morocco has an average temp of about 18C according to the internet. If he built himself a shade from the shell as the first stage he'd be pretty good for surviving the aspects of dehydration.<p>Plus anyone who's ever been near a 2CV know you could probably drill through the metal with a pencil if you tried hard enough.<p>Edit: some more info on why it's possible.<p>- 2CV weighs roughly 560kg, they were built to save weight all round so the body panels, frame work and mechanical components were built 'light' (read thin, no carbon fibre here).<p>- The engine will have been heavy, but it's a relatively small simple block, it won't have been easy but "give me a fulcrum and I will move the world". It's doable, I'm pretty sure if I bug the petrol heads I know I'll find one who's done it on something similar or tell me how it's done. Edit: brohee (<a href="http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4008052" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4008052</a>) posts that the engine is 66kg, which isn't super ridiculously heavy. Find someone who's around that weight and see if you can pick them up.<p>- If you're going on a desert holiday, taking water is a smart idea. 14 days water would be about 8/9 gallons for a man weighing 12 stone (I think, unless the 'recommended minimum water per day' calculation I found is useless). That seems like a lot, it's about 4 of the jugs used on water coolers, so he might have rationed it out and had less.<p>To round it off for you naysayers: <a href="http://citcity.citroen1.info/2CV/water.htm" rel="nofollow">http://citcity.citroen1.info/2CV/water.htm</a> if multiple people can make boats out of them to race about a local lake there's every possibility someone could figure out how to make a bike.<p>(and yes, I'm locked into a 2CV research spiral now)
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Aissen大约 13 年前
So, I'm a french native and I read the story. Here are simple facts:<p>- it's from 2003, and at the time all the magazines were talking about it - I don't remember it.<p>- the guy was a few tens of kilometers of a city/village — he could have come back on foot in less than a day, but chose to stay to protect his car (haha ! ;-)) and his equipment.<p>- He had lots of resources (food/water), so he decided to stay, and build the project he probably have been dreaming for a long time.<p>- the guy wasn't a newbie in mechanics and knew the car (a very well known french brand) by heart. He also happened to have all the tools necessary in his car.
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screwt大约 13 年前
For all the people expressing doubt, please:<p>- read the original story [1], in full. Google translate is your friend if you can't read French.<p>- find out a bit more about the 2CV car before commenting. It really is a very simple vehicle.<p>Ovi256's explanation [2] also gives a bit more context.<p>This story is emminently believable. And an impressive hack!<p>[1] <a href="http://chameaudacier.free.fr/moto2.html" rel="nofollow">http://chameaudacier.free.fr/moto2.html</a><p>[2] <a href="http://news.ycombinator.org/item?id=4007857" rel="nofollow">http://news.ycombinator.org/item?id=4007857</a>
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robomartin大约 13 年前
I hope Myth Busters read HN. This would be a good one: Can you take a 2CV and turn it into a motorcycle and river-crossing barge.
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Steko大约 13 年前
A lot of people seem to be extrapolating "stranded in the desert" into a scene out of Survivorman or some Hollywood movie or The Little Prince.<p>Alternate title: "Mechanic camps not far town, repurposes broken car as motorcycle"
sbmassey大约 13 年前
Even more amazingly, he made a boat from another broken 2CV on another occasion in Africa. My, those 2CV's sure do break a lot.<p><a href="http://chameaudacier.free.fr/bato1.html" rel="nofollow">http://chameaudacier.free.fr/bato1.html</a>
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xd大约 13 年前
From memory the 2CV had brake drums attached to the gearboxs differential CV shafts, you can see this in the pictures and he has strapped one up which puts all power into the other side allowing him to drive the wheel by placing the brake drum in direct contact with the wheel.<p>Later version of the 2CV had discs .. I wonder if it would have been possibly if he had that configuration.
noonespecial大约 13 年前
If happen to have the tools to turn you car into a friggin' motor bike in the middle of the desert, wouldn't it have been easier just to fix whatever went wrong on the car in the first place?
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waivej大约 13 年前
I have to admit, I had a shred of doubt. Though I can see myself doing this exact project. I would absolutely add the kick stand and license plate. He probably also wanted to make it look cool.<p>Camping in the desert isn't outrageous either. Anyone that's spent a week at Burning Man tinkering with art cars and construction projects can appreciate the challenge. You're there with a partial tool kit, enough water for 10-12 days, and appetite for a creative project. The one thing out of my comfort is the "war zone".
frontier大约 13 年前
When I read this I just thought (assuming he couldn't just Macgyver the original problem) why didn't he just dig a hole, bury the 'expensive' tools, walk back to civilization, buy the spare part, return, fix, dig up tools, be on his way!
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waivej大约 13 年前
It looks like it would perform very poorly (a bit like a recumbent tricycle project I abandoned.) It has a really long wheelbase and a lot of weight up high. I bet the steering was less than ideal too.<p>I wonder if he would have been better off keeping the front axle/engine assembly intact and adding a single trailing wheel.
leftnode大约 13 年前
The man just happened to be named Tony Stark.
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matthiasb大约 13 年前
The guy actually got a ticket for riding a vehicle which is not conform with the local legislation ;-) <a href="http://chameaudacier.free.fr/pv.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://chameaudacier.free.fr/pv.jpg</a><p>That pic is so funny, don't miss it: <a href="http://chameaudacier.free.fr/moto8.html" rel="nofollow">http://chameaudacier.free.fr/moto8.html</a><p>That would be a great subject for analysis by the owner of this blog I like to read: <a href="http://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/</a>
S_A_P大约 13 年前
I'm having trouble believing that one person can accomplish this in 12 days with few tools could disassemble a car and build something even remotely drive-able without a welding torch, engine jack, and countless other tools. Was he stranded in the desert in the way that I imagine?(no water, sand dunes everywhere) Or did he end up in some desert town that had basic facilities for him to do this type of work?<p>Even the most skilled machinist would have a tough time doing this. Seems implausible.
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waivej大约 13 年前
BTW, this would be an awesome event. Everyone camps in a desert with a 2CV (or collection of parts) take a week and have a race/parade back to some location.
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sparknlaunch12大约 13 年前
Looks like something out of Mad Max or Water World. It sounds like a hoax just by the fact - why didn't the guy just fix the car instead of building a motorcycle? Also, don't think he followed the desert survival guide (1):<p>"Stay as hydrated as possible before going out.<p>Take along food that packs the most nutrition in the least size and weight.<p>Wear wicking fabrics with a UPF of at least 30 as a base layer, and take along one warming layer (wool or fleece) and one windbreak layer.<p>Many deserts are prone to dust storms - protect yourself.<p>Travel at night when possible.<p>Try to stay as warm as possible at night.<p>Be wary of nocturnal animals that can harm you."<p>Typically you are meant to stay with the vehicle.<p><a href="http://www.wikihow.com/Survive-in-the-Desert" rel="nofollow">http://www.wikihow.com/Survive-in-the-Desert</a>
rokhayakebe大约 13 年前
By the way, it seems he used the reverse gear, which means there would be no need to shift.
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kghose大约 13 年前
Also, I would like to add to the general skepticism. A kick stand? Really?
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Luc大约 13 年前
Supposing it's a true story, here's the region where he took his 2CV off-road: <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?q=agadir&#38;hl=en&#38;ll=28.294103,-10.991135&#38;spn=0.549587,0.611115&#38;sll=33.85217,-4.801025&#38;sspn=8.289195,9.777832&#38;t=h&#38;hnear=Agadir,+Agadir-Ida-Ou+Tanane+Province,+Souss-Massa-Draa,+Morocco&#38;z=11" rel="nofollow">http://maps.google.com/maps?q=agadir&#38;hl=en&#38;ll=28.294...</a><p>Looks deserty to me!<p>Plus, his 2CV was loaded with tools, and they are really quite simple mechanically....
xd大约 13 年前
When I was young, I really really wanted a motorbike and at the same time my dad collected 2CVs which for some I would strip for parts .. this guy would have been my hero back then.
bryanlarsen大约 13 年前
vladsanchez is right, but he's been hell-banned, so I'll rephrase his comment:<p>This is the sort of thing that would make a great Mythbusters episode.
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zoidb大约 13 年前
would be awesome if it was true
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periferral大约 13 年前
Credibility of this is very doubtful indeed. Even if the 2CV was easy to deal with mechanically, the task of doing this in itself is a challenge in the middle of the desert. Add to that he didn't plan on breaking down and had tools + food/water to last him the trip. Then you take the precision of the work itself. He even bothered to add a license plate and he managed to level it as well.
seanp2k2大约 13 年前
As a long-time fan of Junkyard Wars, I approve :)
antidoh大约 13 年前
Was the guy an RC motorcycle designer?
drone大约 13 年前
The part that sets off my incredulity here is that the whole purpose was "he had a lot of tools that he didn't want to get stolen." I have a hard time believing that bike can hold more tools than one could carry, or otherwise drag with a simple sled.
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Freestyler_3大约 13 年前
If that picture above article is the motorcycle...then that guy sure didnt build it to survive.... I mean why would you need a standard??? (im reffering to the thing that keeps it standing straight) that doesn't work well in sand either,
djbender大约 13 年前
I want to believe.
tif大约 13 年前
There's a (very short) video of someone riding it near the bottom of this page on the adventure rider forums:<p><a href="http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=773613" rel="nofollow">http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=773613</a>
ken大约 13 年前
What makes it seem fantastical is not the facts of the story itself, but that it's so similar to the plot of a 1965 Jimmie Stewart movie -- and seems to make no mention of this.
studio816大约 13 年前
+1 for a true hacker!
elorant大约 13 年前
MacGyver would be jealous!
georgieporgie大约 13 年前
The part that made me dubious was that he had sufficient hacksaw blades and a rat-tail file, but no hand drill. I'm having a hard time thinking of why one would pack blades and a file, but no drill...<p>But hey, I figure this is the type of guy who knowingly puts himself into risky situations with sub-par transportation for the sake of testing his own resourcefulness. I do that sort of thing, too.
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obilgic大约 13 年前
lol, one simply can't move that engine by himself...
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