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Myths about the Anthropocene

69 点作者 lehi大约 1 年前

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Nevermark大约 1 年前
It does seem pointless to avoid naming a new era for dramatic irreversible changes that would have defined a new era if they happened millions of years ago.<p>How many common assumptions about the Holocene are already broken?<p>--<p>With much less at stake, I think it was out of touch and impractical to choose scientific terminology at odds with existing common language, when &quot;dwarf planet&quot; was defined as <i>not</i> a subcategory of &quot;planet&quot;.<p>It defies common usage, and also common language forms. Prefixed nouns usually refer to subcategories, not excluded categories.<p>What science fiction story is going to carefully distinguish &quot;dwarf planets&quot; as being a completely separate category from &quot;planets&quot; because one didn&#x27;t completely clear its orbit of debris?<p>A better (equivalent, and just as useful) nomenclature would have left the common definition of &quot;planet&quot; alone: i.e. a body circling a star, too small to be a star or brown dwarf (no continuous or aborted fusion), but large enough to form a near sphere based on its own gravitational field.<p>THEN, subdivide &quot;planets&quot; into &quot;major planets&quot; and &quot;minor planets&quot;. We have 8 major planets, and it turns out, many many dwarf planets.<p>Pluto is a &quot;planet&quot;, specifically a &quot;dwarf planet&quot;. Earth and Jupiter are &quot;planets&quot;, specifically &quot;major planets&quot;.<p>&quot;Rogue planets&quot; are &quot;planets&quot; that left their systems. Some were originally major, some dwarf. &quot;Protoplanets&quot; are new &quot;planets&quot; actively accumulating mass by clearing their orbital field. They may stabilize as &quot;major&quot; or &quot;dwarf&quot; planets.<p>The new exlusionary definition of &quot;planet&quot; also opens the doors to inevitable conundrums:<p>Some day a huge planetary type body will be discovered in the outreaches of a solar system where it has not cleared its area of debris. So not a &quot;planet&quot;?<p>Some day a small planetary body with a cleared orbital field will be found between the orbits of larger planetary bodies that haven&#x27;t cleared their fields. So it is a planet, but the larger bodies surrounding it are not?
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b33j0r大约 1 年前
Would anthropoch be better? Manflection point? Gympulse?<p>If the problem being identified is that science is bad at PR, I agree. Science communication, I love you; please stop being a self-fulfilling prophesy.<p>If the message is that human industrialization besides carbon emissions directly have obscured the discussion. Yes.<p>But this article kinda… does not tell you the thesis, it gives you the evidence for us to come to our own (proven and correct) conclusions. At… length.<p>I like it, but we should probably try to get new people who don’t already agree… maybe
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lainga大约 1 年前
Related:<p>Geologists reject declaration of Anthropocene epoch<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;2024&#x2F;mar&#x2F;22&#x2F;geologists-reject-declaration-of-anthropocene-epoch" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.theguardian.com&#x2F;science&#x2F;2024&#x2F;mar&#x2F;22&#x2F;geologists-r...</a>
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noduerme大约 1 年前
Suppose you want to graph negative responses to a survey over time. Let&#x27;s say the business had been getting increasingly worse on all metrics over time.<p>Grouped by day you might just see a couple huge spikes on days where there were a few negative responses.<p>Grouped by year you&#x27;d notice that the volume of negative feedbacks was increasing.<p>Grouped by milllenia it would be hard to notice that something had changed radically in the last few years.<p>The question is what timeframe matters to your particular case. Unless you can answer that, you can&#x27;t form a specific idea of how bad something actually is or whether it&#x27;s begun improving or is still deteriorating.<p>The worst atmospheric polluting parts of the industrial revolution will have been over for most countries for a century before we really feel the environmental consequences of rising sea levels and increased greenhouse effects. No one alive today was burning coal in 1895. So it&#x27;s not crazy to think about how we adapt, while still considering how to stop adding to the damage.
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FrustratedMonky大约 1 年前
This seems like a reverse logic article. Here are &#x27;myths&#x27;, but really &#x27;Not&#x27;.<p>It isn&#x27;t against naming this the Anthropocene, all of the myths are followed by reasons why they aren&#x27;t myths and this is probably the Anthropocene. &quot;From a certain point of view&quot;.
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beloch大约 1 年前
Honestly, it <i>is</i> hubris to start the anthropocene in just the last human lifetime. Our species has been making an impact that will be evident in the geological record for longer than that.<p>e.g. Geologists of some far-off future are going to notice that species that were isolated to one continent suddenly started popping up <i>everywhere</i> in the fossil record a few hundred years ago. Sea travel has united the continents in way they haven&#x27;t been united since Pangea.<p>A few hundred years will be indistinguishable from a single human lifetime to those future geologists. To us however, it&#x27;s an important distinction.
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neonate大约 1 年前
<a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20240418201615&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.smithsonianmag.com&#x2F;smithsonian-institution&#x2F;what-myths-about-the-anthropocene-get-wrong-180984181&#x2F;" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;web.archive.org&#x2F;web&#x2F;20240418201615&#x2F;https:&#x2F;&#x2F;www.smith...</a>
kazinator大约 1 年前
Let&#x27;s celebrate the new Anthropocene era by extracting some anthracene from anthracite and lighting it on fire.
hoc大约 1 年前
Making fire and the wheel considered dangerous, choosing farty animals for our cultivation endeavors stinks while getting down from trees into concrete caves was a bad move. Scaling that up to &quot;everyone&quot;... priceless.<p>What we once considered pivotal points in our development seems now the source for our declared demise. At least we discovered that via satellites shot into orbit by rockets.<p>Now, if we accept that as the natural overshooting in a evolutionary jump, we just need to adjust. The undershooting will be painful, the discussion in the next few oscillations annyoing, still, it&#x27;s the way to go. After all, denial is just a common step in change.
eimrine大约 1 年前
Can I have an answer to the quession in the heading according to the article? This English is too complicated for me.
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mig39大约 1 年前
The argument is a lot like calling that 1914-1918 global conflict &quot;The Great War.&quot;<p>Yeah, let&#x27;s not be hasty here. Let&#x27;s just call it a war, because something worse can come along...<p>Let&#x27;s not call this the Anthropocene yet, we don&#x27;t know what&#x27;s coming.
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Anotheroneagain大约 1 年前
It would have to be defined to begin much earlier, perhaps 26ky ago, when the mass extinctions and geological changes began to happen.