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Bringing Exchange Support to Thunderbird

278 点作者 campuscodi大约 1 年前

21 条评论

lousken大约 1 年前
why implementing ews when it is already deprecated and will be removed in two years? <a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcommunity.microsoft.com&#x2F;t5&#x2F;exchange-team-blog&#x2F;retirement-of-exchange-web-services-in-exchange-online&#x2F;ba-p&#x2F;3924440" rel="nofollow">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;techcommunity.microsoft.com&#x2F;t5&#x2F;exchange-team-blog&#x2F;re...</a>
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hnarn大约 1 年前
Strategically this makes sense if the goal is just to get people to use Thunderbird, but ideologically JMAP support would be a lot nicer in my opinion.
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Semaphor大约 1 年前
I recently tried Thunderbird instead of Outlook. It had the same issue as FF did before the quantum update: It&#x27;s too damn slow. Switching between different folders with hundreds or thousands of mails has noticable delays, while in Outlook it&#x27;s essentially instant.
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selimnairb大约 1 年前
Hate Exchange but glad they are doing this. Now maybe I can successfully send plaintext mail on Exchange when confined to Windows.
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superkuh大约 1 年前
&gt;in the entire 20 year lifetime of the Thunderbird project, no one has added support for a new mail protocol before.<p>Technically true but also every megacorp&#x27;s OAuth2 out-of-band authentication implementation needs it&#x27;s own special configuration (read workaround) per email client and Thunderbird has collected quite a few. These are not normal mail protocols: they&#x27;re over HTTPS not IMAP or POP3 or SMTP.<p>This proclamation &quot;no one has added support for a new mail protocol&quot; is a good thing and this change is not good. Supporting proprietary setups is pragmatic and understandable but it&#x27;s not good. This is only going to briefly mitigate the problems of email splintering into dozens of per-corporation variations while encouraging people to be okay with them in the long run.
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bachmeier大约 1 年前
Not sure why the headline was changed. This is an article about Rust programming. &quot;Bringing Exchange Support to Thunderbird&quot; implies it&#x27;s about Thunderbird and it&#x27;s support for Exchange - something you won&#x27;t learn from the article.
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WhyNotHugo大约 1 年前
I guess support for proprietary specifications is useful, but I really wish Mozilla would prioritise implementing standards like auto-discovery of email submission (SMTP) servers (rfc6186, 2011).<p>Currently, users have to manually provide hostname and port of their SMTP server, which is likely fine for those of us on this website, but not at all friendly for the other 99.9% of the human population.<p>The amount of effort require to implement all of Exchange is also probably orders of magnitude more than discovery of submission servers via DNS&#x2F;SRV. I really don&#x27;t get Mozilla&#x27;s priorities.
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Schnitz大约 1 年前
Wow! 20 years or so ago, I remember working in IT and only a few of us ran Linux in otherwise fully Microsoft shops. Exchange was always one of these things that it was tough to find a good client for. We would have been over the moon!
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ForHackernews大约 1 年前
&gt; There was also no paid maintainership from about 2012 — when Mozilla divested and transferred ownership of Thunderbird to its community — until 2017, when Thunderbird rejoined the Mozilla Foundation.<p>What a scandal this was. A prime example of Mozilla&#x27;s backwards priorities.
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zozbot234大约 1 年前
Please include PST file import out of the box so that folks can seamlessly switch away from their Outlook installs without having to fiddle with Outlook itself. There is a free project for reading PST files, all it needs is integrating into the suite.
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rdl大约 1 年前
This will be nice; I&#x27;ve been stuck using OWL for this purpose (which I think is the main extension; IDK if there&#x27;s anything else.)
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packetlost大约 1 年前
We&#x27;re desperately in need of SMTP&#x2F;2 + IMAP5 or something
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sega_sai大约 1 年前
It would be good to make Thunderbird a proper competitor to Gnome&#x27;s Evolution when it comes to EWS.
Scarbutt大约 1 年前
Is thunderbird search on par with gmail&#x27;s search?
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globular-toast大约 1 年前
I&#x27;ve been using thunderbird in exchange places for years. Yeah, it&#x27;s shit, but that&#x27;s exchange. I just try to limit my exposure. But I can see &quot;invites&quot; and that kind of stuff. What am I missing?
Neil44大约 1 年前
Imagine if IMAP was slightly better and had a standard for calendar and contact objects.
jaylittle大约 1 年前
Who the fuck cares? Exchange is dead. Office 365 is where its at. Move on Thunderbird team.
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counterpartyrsk大约 1 年前
&gt; it’s no surprise that there’s demand among Thunderbird users to support Exchange.<p>Uh, I&#x27;m surprised. How many people actually love thunderbird? And to the extend it justified the development.
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Animats大约 1 年前
Oh, Microsoft Exchange. I was thinking crypto support.
SV_BubbleTime大约 1 年前
This post gives me extremely little hope.<p>One one hand… ok, let’s say it’s an engineering post written by devs for devs. OKAY, talk about Rust if you like. Devs might be more interested in the cause than the effect.<p>On the other hand… is this written for devs? Seems written for users. And I for one don’t give one half of one shit what language you use <i>as a customer</i>. It’s a post about Exchange, I don’t want to hear about new fangled language. I don’t pay you use a specific language, I pay you to deliver a specific feature… now obviously I don’t pay them in anything but time, donation, and reputation. But I think the point applies.<p>No one but Rust Evangelicals care about doing something over in Rust. There isn’t a single end feature that you can deliver in Rust but not C.<p>It reads to me like the developers are nerding out on a detail while being slightly uncommitted to the thing they “are paid to make”.<p>I have to agree with the other users that MS has already set an EOL on the feature that TB is planning to use. So… woohoo Rust?
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Ringz大约 1 年前
This is good news and I&#x27;m looking forward to Thunderbird natively supporting XChange. But everything I read about it triggers my inner voice: „Do a parallel rewrite of the whole damn 20 year old codebase in Rust! It’s faster, cheaper and cleaner. Do it right now. Don’t discuss it in mailing lists. Take 12 competent software developers and let them rebuild everything.“
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