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Plunging Home Prices, Fleeing Companies: Austin's Glow Is Fading

46 点作者 petethomas大约 1 年前

8 条评论

jseliger大约 1 年前
It&#x27;s amazing that Bloomberg presents falling housing prices are presented as bad, rather than as an opportunity!<p>There are a million morons online who claim that increasing the supply of housing somehow never moderates or lowers prices. Then it clearly happens.
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sandspar大约 1 年前
Austin is just a bit too hot for the average person. Their summers are fine if you grew up in the desert. But people who move from WhereEversville America to Austin - they&#x27;re gonna have a rough time in Austin in August. If you&#x27;ve been to Las Vegas in the summer then imagine that temperature.
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lisper大约 1 年前
I guess folks are realizing that Austin actually is in Texas after all.
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openrisk大约 1 年前
It is interesting that competition seems to come from another mid-sized city (Nashville) rather than a return to megacities. There are plenty of such smaller cities and if there is indeed a move away from 10mln+ sized cities toward 1mln+ sized cities there will be no shortage of offering.<p>What will be the optimal urban shape and size in a much more digitally interconnected world? It still an open question. The pandemic forced people to recognize this is a major new dynamic but we are far from a new equilibrium. The Austin boom and (purported) bust might be seen as exploring the new efficient frontier.<p>The conjecture would be that smaller cities, sized and organized to offer the amenities and opportunities of the traditional metropolises of the 20th century but where people are not forced to pay disproportionate noise, polution and overcrowding penalties will eventually become the standard pattern.<p>Much will depend on the precise non-linear dependencies on scale (both negative and positive factors).
andsoitis大约 1 年前
For me the most interesting about all this is that there are so many people that at the same time treat a city as fashionable for a hot minute but then dump it when the algotrend is on the rise.<p>Like Heidi Klum would say: the one day you’re in. The next day you’re out.
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hn_throwaway_99大约 1 年前
The article itself is actually pretty balanced despite the &quot;doomer&quot; headline.<p>As a (relatively) long time Austinite, a big part of the appeal of Austin for a long time was that it might not have all the amenities or infrastructure of a big metropolis like NYC, LA, SF or Chicago, but because it was so much <i>cheaper</i>, you could actually afford to take advantage of what the city had to offer. That tradeoff has gotten significantly worse recently. I.e. Austin never had the cultural attractions (major museums, first class theater, architecture, etc.), big league sports teams, perfect weather, great geography, etc. of various bigger cities, but it did have good &quot;2nd tier options&quot;: Lady Bird Lake (Town Lake to us oldies), Lake Travis, great music scene, etc. These made Austin a great option if you wanted more of a career&#x2F;life balance.<p>But while Austin really started getting ridiculously unaffordable (for what it offers) I&#x27;d say starting in the early 2010s, it just got into plain stupid &quot;meme stock&quot; territory during the pandemic. I&#x27;m not sure if it was some combination of Elon Musk&#x2F;Joe Rogan&#x2F;etc., but people elsewhere got this silly hyped up vision of Austin. When I first moved to Austin I was worried none of my friends from the coasts would want to visit me, and then for the past couple years if I told people I was from Austin I&#x27;d always hear &quot;Oh, I hear that it&#x27;s such an awesome city!&quot; which honestly was a bit weird to me. Don&#x27;t get me wrong, I always really liked Austin and it has a ton to offer, but the negatives have started to outweigh the positives: it&#x27;s always been crazy hot during the summer, but 2023 was insane and probably a peek of what climate change has in store; public transportation is pretty abysmal so if you don&#x27;t live close in to the city you&#x27;ll be stuck in horrendous traffic; but the crazy explosion in housing prices mean that anything remotely central is egregiously expensive; being a woman of reproductive age can simply be dangerous in Texas (even if you desperately want to have kids).<p>So I think what is happening is a much, much needed correction. Austin still has a ton to offer, but not at the stupid prices of the past couple years. And if anything, housing has really started falling because there recently has been a ton of multi-family projects that have come online. I mean, say what you want about the lack of regulation in Texas, but at least we&#x27;re solving our housing problem here with the only solution that really works - building more housing.
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mise_en_place大约 1 年前
A lot of these boomtowns were the result of ZIRP and Section 174. Not saying they will collapse any time soon though, just that the growth phase is over.<p>The alternative is relocating back to SF, which is an unlivable city at this point.
dataviz1000大约 1 年前
I made a comment about this 12 months ago. How close is my projection?<p><a href="https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35829544">https:&#x2F;&#x2F;news.ycombinator.com&#x2F;item?id=35829544</a>