I'm posting this because it's crazy to me how the link regarding Jimmy Carter's UFO encounter gets upvoted in HackerNews, but not David Grursch's claims. Grusch was a former NRO/NGA intel officer. He testified under oath to the Intelligence Community Inspector Generals, both Senate/House Intel Committees, and a public House Oversight Committee under oath that the USG has recovered crashed/landed non-human intelligence craft. The ICIG referred Grusch's claims to the intel committees as being "credible" and "urgent".<p>David Grusch is not some random whistleblower we should be ignoring. He was a GS-15 intel officer read into over 2000 special access programs. He handled the presidential daily briefing, which they do not give to just anyone. Take a look at his resume to see how highly cleared he was <a href="https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO06/20230726/116282/HHRG-118-GO06-Bio-GruschD-20230726.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://docs.house.gov/meetings/GO/GO06/20230726/116282/HHRG...</a>.<p>And let me just clarify - this is not just one person's claims. His work in the UAP Task Force had 40 people with direct, first hand knowledge of the programs. Some of whom worked on the non-human intelligence (NHI) craft. He had these people testify to the ICIG, providing documentation, imagery, and other evidence.<p>Listen, I know this sounds <i>insane</i> to most folks. The meat of his claims, beyond the craft, are that factions of the USG have <i>not</i> been properly giving congress(and even some presidents) oversight of these alleged Special Access Programs. The ICIG has most likely referred this case to the justice department, and his claims have started a congressional UAP Caucus in the house.<p>Take a look at this interview with Marco Rubio, the ranking member of the Senate Intel Committee, as he's talking about the 40 whistleblower's claims <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4hmaflNoKU" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4hmaflNoKU</a><p>Rep Jared Moscowitz, after a SCIF meeting with the ICIG, said "Based on what we heard many of Grusch claims have merit!" <a href="https://twitter.com/JaredEMoskowitz/status/1745852400630456618" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/JaredEMoskowitz/status/17458524006304566...</a><p>If you haven't watched the HOC hearing, or any of his other interviews, I highly recommend you do so. Or at the very least, read his opening statement he was giving to the HOC<p>* HOC opening statement <a href="https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Dave_G_HOC_Speech_FINAL_For_Trans.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/Dave_...</a><p>* HOC hearing <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSCEWo2yjds" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSCEWo2yjds</a><p>* Initial interview with Ross Coulthart
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLZzDhDYMcw" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLZzDhDYMcw</a><p>* Initial article <a href="https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/" rel="nofollow">https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-re...</a><p>* Interview on JRE
<a href="https://open.spotify.com/episode/6D6otpHwnaAc86SS1M8yHm" rel="nofollow">https://open.spotify.com/episode/6D6otpHwnaAc86SS1M8yHm</a><p>* Interview with Tucker Carlson <a href="https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1735083523050975277?lang=en" rel="nofollow">https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1735083523050975277...</a><p>I'm not saying the claims are true. I'm just saying, the allegations are worth investigating and should not be dismissed outright.<p>One final note. After Grusch's claims released, Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer introduced an amendment to the NDAA 2024 titled "UAP Disclosure Act" which would've set up a presidential panel to declassify and release information that the USG has on the subject. It references the terminology "non-human intelligence" 27 times. The amendment was gutted by certain house members and unfortunately did not make it through in its initial form, but it's worth the read. <a href="https://www.democrats.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/uap_amendment.pdf" rel="nofollow">https://www.democrats.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/uap_amendment...</a>.<p>You can hear Schumer talk about the UAPDA on the senate floor where he says "credible sources have said that information on UAPs has been withheld from congress" here <a href="https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5097853/user-clip-schumerrounds" rel="nofollow">https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5097853/user-clip-schumerroun...</a> and he talks about it again when the amendment was being gutted by certain house members here <a href="https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18aua4o/senator_schumer_blames_the_house_republicans_for/" rel="nofollow">https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/18aua4o/senator_schum...</a><p>And finally, I highly recommend checking out askapol.com where Matt Laslo has been doing great work getting congress members on the record about this.